Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

[Gol D. Roger]

Except that
- Marco was in a 1 vs 2 when was kicking him around
- 1 vs 2 means that you have to keep 2 opponents at bay at the same time
- The time you focus on one opponent, the other could already be on your back
So for Marco to be able to switch between King and Queen, having enough time to send King flying after already having sent Queen flying shows a higher level of speed

Well, It was a two on one but he wasn't fighting them at the same time. He's clearly taking turns, which is due to his ability to keep going after getting hit and not due to speed. Marco did not send Queen flying before King did he? King sliced off his wing as soon as he dodged Queen's laser and then he landed on a tower and used blue bird before King can get a second hit which speaks for his reaction and not his speed.

Which is a baseless statement

Not as baseless as saying King used hybrid and Zoan forms off-panel when he clearly saw him fighting in base.

The hightlight was about Marco's stamina, not the injury

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And the latest chapter further suggest he wasn't critically damaged

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He's injured, which is why Queen assumed he's dead. You don't die from just exhaution. Also, the Izo part was a mistralation. The other official versions besides the English one also translated it as Marco complaining about his injuries. Marco complaining about carrying an injured friend doesn't make any sense.

 

[zorji]

We don't know that though. We don't know how strong Hell Memories is vs Vagabond Drill. My point is you can't just assume that based on Wadatsumi.

WTF ???? then how can you compare two attacks more precisely than literally testing attacks on same opponent, After vagabond drill, the only thing wadatsumi was worried about is to not let the air go out from his inflated body, while HM back in fishemn island destroyed the shit out of him for the rest of the arc... Imagine this uprgraded hell memories... It's a fact you can't say otherwise

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Rayleigh says that Haki is nothing more than will, it is the spirit of the individual.

We saw Enma being presented as a cursed sword that extracts the Haki from the user and that only Oden managed to tame it.

Zoro has always possessed the Conqueror Haki, but he never knew how to use it, but then the question arises, how can the guy use it now?

Explanation:

Simple, as Enma extracts Haki from the user who is the spirit of the individual, she can extract CoC.
The Conqueror's Haki is also one of the elements that make up the individual's spirit, so this makes it possible to extract such a resource, Enma is extracting Zoro's spirit and for that she needs to "eat" more than normal, thus releasing her full potential .

The reason cursed swords are feared is because only those with great ambition can tame them.

Swordsmen without ambition are discarded by these swords and die.

Zoro has a strong spirit and therefore has a great affinity with these swords, the same applies to Oden.
Enma is probably a training tool for Zoro to learn CoC.

Cap. Haki is not just Will. The direct meaning of haki is the materlization and the manifestation of will. Hence why when given a physical form it can run out.

This chapter actually proves that zoro knew he had kings haki if we look at his dialogue talking about he should restrict it/regulate it or if should let it all lose regardless of enmas ability

 

[Sir Yasheen]

We don't know that though. We don't know how strong Hell Memories is vs Vagabond Drill. My point is you can't just assume that based on Wadatsumi.

I mean we saw each of their effects on the same character. Hell memories is significantly stronger.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Yes, it does. Beckman and Shiriew could beat Doffy. King can play Poker with Queen and Jack, because Joker > suits.

Joker > Suits you pulled out of your ass you dumbass, even your retarded comparisons are stupid
Joker is a wildcard not an Ace
At least learn how Poker works before you say dumb shit.

 

[huggertkettle]

WTF ???? then how can you compare two attacks more precisely than literally testing attacks on same opponent, After vagabond drill, the only thing wadatsumi was worried about is to not let the air go out from his inflated body, while HM back in fishemn island destroyed the shit out of him for the rest of the arc... Imagine this uprgraded hell memories... It's a fact you can't say otherwise

You can't do that, that's my point. You can't compare attacks like that. If you do, everything else becomes comparable.

 

[BakiDou]

Loro knows how to give head, just look at kingZolo nr 1 prostitute in wano

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

We are getting so much greatness and WE HAVENT EVEN GOT A MIHAWK FLASHBACK in wano yet , that is INSANITY

 

[ShishioIsBack]

But Doffy can pull all poker cards our of his ass he's a fucking embarrassment and literally a fodder if you compare him to King. King would literally eat him alive

 

[zorji]

You can't do that, that's my point. You can't compare attacks like that. If you do, everything else becomes comparable.

???

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I just noticed these are some pretty detailed spoilers for a "short summary" on tuesday.

Might as well be the full summary at this point lol

Is it only Tuesday?? Fuck’s sake, lost a few days yet again…

 

[Halyup]

B

Why can't Zorotards accept King as his final enemy this arc. Magic Potion from Minks won't last enough after King fight. Zoro will collapse.

Sanjitards have to stop the copium as well. Sanji didn't take an L, relax.

Coz he isnt
Remember what Zoro told sanji
He got more things to look forward after Defeatin King

 

[huggertkettle]

I mean we saw each of their effects on the same character. Hell memories is significantly stronger.

What about cumulative damage? Which attacked was performed first? If the attack was performed on a target with the same damage taken, then yeah you can compare, but it wasn't. HM was performed on an already injured Wadatsumi.

 

[Cinera]

Bruh don't tell me you're with the King > Kaido agenda

No:

I'm not going to call King a Top Tier (I'll wait until after Wano ends to revamp my tier list), but my "High Tier" does not have room for a character as strong as King.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

???

Apparently comparing two attacks on the same target isn’t how you should be comparing attacks…

 

[MarineHQ]

If King tanks Shishi Sonson with his regular Body in Base then he has insane Durability.
That would actually help too argue for Marco's AP since he managed to make him cough up a lil blood.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Just realized something, of this is Kozaburo's current design or something close to it:

Then this person is probably not Kozaburo returning to Wano:

Unless that top knot hair from Kozaburo is much longer than we can see. Actually very curious if we'll be able to tell this chapter (if he has a similar cape and hair design/wears a Wano strawhat).

 

[Ask D question]

As I just said, you don't know if they are the same AP. By what metric do you measure the AP of VD against Wadatsumi and the one against BM/WW?

I'll wait.

The whole point of named attacks is to give the reader an idea of how strong the attacks used are

 

[OPKnK]

You're right, he held back the ultimate combination attack of Kaido and Big Mom:

For a short while until law save him or he would be dead .
Saying Kaido and Zoro get in sort physical battle make no sense it be like saying he did it with BM just because of that one attack .
Most of the time on the roof Kaido was busy doing AoE shit vs people that were dodging or what else.
It only after he turn hybrid he went physical and even then it was only one blow exchange between them before Zoro left which kaido tank .
Hell yamo and Kaido had more of phycail battle than Zoro and Kaido ever did .

 

[zorji]

Apparently comparing two attacks on the same target isn’t how you should be comparing attacks…