Has Queen been defeated?


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Right but Queen has a pretty significantly higher bounty than someone like Katakuri and I really don't know how many stats he has over him

I know some people speculate that a lot of Queen's bounty has to do with being part of MADS and him being brutal, etc etc but just the fact that there's that much nuance to it makes it difficult to use
Invisibility can mess with observation haki.
Durability >>
Raw strenght probably > (ancient zoan, brachio bomber put big mom to sleep....)
Tech & versatility


In general a fight between them would be tough, one struggling to hit the other while one is struggling to do enough damage to the other
 

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Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Not gonna lie but that speed feat is indeed impressive. Even if we consider it's a short time burst like a blitz even then having such speed is hell impressive.


Oda literally drew the panel highlighting his disappearance as if he went invisible.




This is the best PU he has received.




As far as his hot flames is concerned then I am a bit off regarding it.


It seems Sanji used hardening and exoskeleton to protect his leg from hotter flames.

So, this means if anyone has better CoA then his hotter flames might not do much damage.
 
You guys are being a wee bit obtuse I have to say? The “he’s not invisible, he’s just hanging around the ceiling” is a pretty weak argument, especially when it even shows a shot of the entire hall they’re fighting in, ceiling included, and it still looks like there’s utterly nothing there. Even has the “SSSHHH” sound effect to go with it.

When Sanji’s high speed “invisibility” has been highlighted not just here but in 1031, and is even a part of his upgraded Ifrit Jambe, the burden of proof lies on you to prove that it’s just hyperbole of Sanji’s ability on Queen’s part.

They just can't get the fact that if you take a picture of a fast object like a lightning it's normal that it results in a static imagine lmao
Sanji was moving crazy fast in the room like he was invisible and Oda decided to draw him "stopping the time" when he was near the ceiling, it's not that difficult to get
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Finalbeta

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Anyways. Either Kaidos top commanders have to be way stronger than Big Moms.

Maybe even stronger than Whitebeards. These powers are insane.

Think about it. Queen basically has several DF powers.
King is definitely much more fierceful than Marco.

Joz vs Queen would be interesting to watch however. Joz doesn't seem to be able to cover his entire body in diamond at the same time.
 
Where did you get that from?

Yes as was shown in the panels. Skywalk doesn't need to make audible sound when you are so far above the opponent

Oda also emphases that Sanji's attacks were doing nothing to Queen yet this chapter makes it clear that the attacks were in fact damaging him
he wasn't "soo far above" cool it with the lolpium they aren't in the live floor.. the roofs are different

Queen literally said he expends tremendous energy is using speed for invisibility and he couldn't detect sanji.. that SPEED.. is what he was talking about.. even if you don't wanna take the word invisibility for whats its worth use the word vanish.. it'd still depict sanji's soeed Qieen is emphasizing and yes Sky walk has an sfx
 
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