ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1035: ZORO VS KING
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- King got Kaido's dragon. Queen got Kaido's Oni (Ice Oni). Jack got Kaido's Ls.
It's a nice gesture of the huge respect and belief they have for their captain that they try to encapsulate his image in their deadliest attacks.
- King being a magma user, at least for one attack, shows where he stands. Oda portrayed magma as superior to fire with Akainu Vs Ace, differentiating King among the many fire users from Holdem to Kin'emon and putting him one step above. Sanji's flames unleashing bolts of lightning is the same principle. It also marks progress for Zoro, growing from cutting fire against Kaido to cutting King's magma.
- Sanji rescuing Chuji and saving Osome reminds us of where he came from. He was a failed child prisoner in the Germa kingdom, couldn't save his mice friends and protect women like Cosette. Powerless with no control over his destiny. Our boy has come a very long way.
- Honestly, King being revealed as a test subject is a low key big reveal. Someone like Judge could have swiped some DNA for his research, though Sanji's Lunarian connection remains iffy with King's regular eyebrows/dark skin/white hair. We know Kaido's DNA resulted in Vegapunk's artificial fruit. What did the World Government create out of Lunarian DNA?
Who broke post-Rocks Kaido? Because this is Wano arc, I'm going to guess it was Oden. Shanks was too young. We know his relationship to Big Mom. Roger and Whitebeard avoided Kaido. Kaido never flashed back to anyone else when Luffy hit him.
Oda shows us Kaido's physical transformation here. He stopped dressing like a rebellious punk after Oden died. His invincible body bears a big mark of shame. Kaido saw that Oden was undone by his trust in Kanjuro and Orochi. That Oden became soft, willing to trade power to bargain for the lives of Wano citizens. Kaido couldn't even bring himself to kill Oden's kid because of how bad he felt for the foolish lord and how much he saw himself in him, with his Yamato the same age as Momo. Kaido also began to see death as a form of completeness for how Roger and Oden achieved eternal glory with theirs.
Thinking he learned from Oden's best and worst, turtling up for 20 years in Wano warped Kaido into a dark, somber creature obsessed with power and death. He wasn't going to get betrayed. Strength and fear is how he maintains control, breaking his subordinate's wills and replacing it with his own. Oni subjugating humans is the natural order, as he tells Yamato. Treating his crew like disposable experiments, reflecting the Beast Pirate's origins in Punk Hazard, is favorable on the path to Pirate King. On the path to change the world like he initially desired.
With the official scan's quality it looks like King uses "Extra Large Imperial Flaming Wings" (Karyuudon = Curry Udon) with no fire on his back, leaving him exposed so we never actually got to see Zoro surpass the fire defense. A shame, but maybe Zoro cutting diamond is being saved for a future moment. And it does add to the appeal of this fight that Zoro doesn't simply win by cutting harder, but rather smarter (technically he did level up to slicing magma). With King experimented on and serving as an intro to Lunarians, their story to be fleshed out in a later arc, the uncuttable fire defense could make a return.
What a BS of a statement that is. Zoro post-TS is executive level, he reaches YC3 commander level by going Ashura. Zoro at the beginning of Wano is casually YC3 and becomes YC2 by going Ashura and post Enma training/Onigashima/Rooftop Zoro is YC2 until he used CoC to cut Kaido and Zoro vs King is high YC2 level until he unlocked CoC he became YC1 level
- King got Kaido's dragon. Queen got Kaido's Oni (Ice Oni). Jack got Kaido's Ls. It's a nice gesture of the huge respect and belief they have for their captain that they try to encapsulate his image in their deadliest attacks.
- King being a magma user, at least for one attack, shows where he stands. Oda portrayed magma as superior to fire with Akainu Vs Ace, differentiating King among the many fire users from Holdem to Kin'emon and putting him one step above. Sanji's flames unleashing bolts of lightning is the same principle. It also marks progress for Zoro, growing from cutting fire against Kaido to cutting King's magma.
- Sanji rescuing Chuji and saving Osome reminds us of where he came from. He was a failed child prisoner in the Germa kingdom, couldn't save his mice friends and protect women like Cosette. Powerless with no control over his destiny. Our boy has come a very long way.
- Honestly, King being revealed as a test subject is a low key big reveal. Someone like Judge could have swiped some DNA for his research, though Sanji's Lunarian connection remains iffy with King's regular eyebrows/dark skin/white hair. We know Kaido's DNA resulted in Vegapunk's artificial fruit. What did the World Government create out of Lunarian DNA?
Who broke post-Rocks Kaido? Because this is Wano arc, I'm going to guess it was Oden. Shanks was too young. We know his relationship to Big Mom. Roger and Whitebeard avoided Kaido. Kaido never flashed back to anyone else when Luffy hit him.
Oda shows us Kaido's physical transformation here. He stopped dressing like a rebellious punk after Oden died. His invincible body bears a big mark of shame. Kaido saw that Oden was undone by his trust in Kanjuro and Orochi. That Oden became soft, willing to trade power to bargain for the lives of Wano citizens. Kaido couldn't even bring himself to kill Oden's kid because of how bad he felt for the foolish lord and how much he saw himself in him, with his Yamato the same age as Momo. Kaido also began to see death as a form of completeness for how Roger and Oden achieved eternal glory with theirs.
Thinking he learned from Oden's best and worst, turtling up for 20 years in Wano warped Kaido into a dark, somber creature obsessed with power and death. He wasn't going to get betrayed. Strength and fear is how he maintains control, breaking his subordinate's wills and replacing it with his own. Oni subjugating humans is the natural order, as he tells Yamato. Treating his crew like disposable experiments, reflecting the Beast Pirate's origins in Punk Hazard, is favorable on the path to Pirate King. On the path to change the world like he initially desired.
With the official scan's quality it looks like King uses "Extra Large Imperial Flaming Wings" (Karyuudon = Curry Udon) with no fire on his back, leaving him exposed so we never actually got to see Zoro surpass the fire defense. A shame, but maybe Zoro cutting diamond is being saved for a future moment. And it does add to the appeal of this fight that Zoro doesn't simply win by cutting harder, but rather smarter (technically he did level up to slicing magma). With King experimented on and serving as an intro to Lunarians, their story to be fleshed out in a later arc, the uncuttable fire defense could make a return.
they weren't called gods for nothing
So Zoro post-TS is on the level of Robin and Franky now? Cool story bro. Those can't even use basic Haki while Zoro is an armament master
Can't wait for Black Maria or Izo to casually put up feats like this
Can't wait for Black Maria or Izo to casually put up feats like this
This was a great chapter and Zoro did some really interesting new moves here. It's probably very safe to say that King isn't dead here, just defeated and potentially unconscious from such a terrible wound.
It'd be a terrible fate if he went back to the hands of the Government and honestly, it was already terrible what they did to him as a kid in the first place. The World Government and the Marines, of course, are truly in need of some changes.
I also enjoyed King's backstory - just wish there was a bit more of it about the Lunarians, but I guess they don't matter in the grand scheme of things? I'd like to see King move on after Kaido's defeat and find a new purpose since he's a pretty interesting guy.
Nice to see some intertwined backstory from Kaido as well. Hopefully we will see some more - before his time as an experiment, but with Rocks or even when he was younger as a kid and what he went through a la Doflamingo style. That'd be cool.
It'd be a terrible fate if he went back to the hands of the Government and honestly, it was already terrible what they did to him as a kid in the first place. The World Government and the Marines, of course, are truly in need of some changes.
I also enjoyed King's backstory - just wish there was a bit more of it about the Lunarians, but I guess they don't matter in the grand scheme of things? I'd like to see King move on after Kaido's defeat and find a new purpose since he's a pretty interesting guy.
Nice to see some intertwined backstory from Kaido as well. Hopefully we will see some more - before his time as an experiment, but with Rocks or even when he was younger as a kid and what he went through a la Doflamingo style. That'd be cool.
No, Dressrosa Zoro was at least Y3 level. That's not including asura mode.
That could be determined by his clash with an Admiral, Zoro not being allowed to fight Doffy, and his strength in Wano with just 2 swords.
Of course, his battle against Pica where Zoro completely dominated and destroyed Pica.
That could be determined by his clash with an Admiral, Zoro not being allowed to fight Doffy, and his strength in Wano with just 2 swords.
Of course, his battle against Pica where Zoro completely dominated and destroyed Pica.
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The longest fights they (Zoro&Sanji) had in the manga but these fights were simply awful 
King before fighting zoro=fighting Marco(completely heal after that)
100% health king got low diff by zoro(zoro didn't to need sneak attack)
Queen before fighting sanji=queen Vs Marco,chopper
40%health queen proceed to low diff sanji
Queen nerf himself by shooting his own beam to himself
20%health queen take little damage from massive bullshit power up sanji(daddy help)
15%health queen get sneak attack by current sanji.
Zoro wasn't need any help to defeat someone who have instant recovery meanwhile sanji need to sneak attack after tons of help he got just to defeat someone who defence is low tier(big mom 2 attack),slow recovery
Current sanji level=black Maria,baby 5,monet,any low tier
Current sanji won't even beat oven,daifuku,vergo
How weak sanji when in dressrosa?baby 5 midd diff him is high I could give
Thriller bark zoro negg diff current sanji
Sanjitards=brainless pig
Zoro adcoc is so massive that Roger, whitebeard, kaido, big mom,Luffy, yamato look pathetic
Non coc user is under coc user foot=sanji is zoro servant
100% health king got low diff by zoro(zoro didn't to need sneak attack)
Queen before fighting sanji=queen Vs Marco,chopper
40%health queen proceed to low diff sanji
Queen nerf himself by shooting his own beam to himself
20%health queen take little damage from massive bullshit power up sanji(daddy help)
15%health queen get sneak attack by current sanji.
Zoro wasn't need any help to defeat someone who have instant recovery meanwhile sanji need to sneak attack after tons of help he got just to defeat someone who defence is low tier(big mom 2 attack),slow recovery
Current sanji level=black Maria,baby 5,monet,any low tier
Current sanji won't even beat oven,daifuku,vergo
How weak sanji when in dressrosa?baby 5 midd diff him is high I could give
Thriller bark zoro negg diff current sanji
Sanjitards=brainless pig
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Zoro adcoc is so massive that Roger, whitebeard, kaido, big mom,Luffy, yamato look pathetic
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Non coc user is under coc user foot=sanji is zoro servant
Good chapter overall, the fight was good but tbh I was expecting it to be a little harder and longer. Seems like that those last fights they just exchange 2 or 3 punches and then one shot and fight ends.
Also dissapointed that sanji fight is already over... I mean... so much for queen.... got basically one shoted.
Also dissapointed that sanji fight is already over... I mean... so much for queen.... got basically one shoted.
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