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One Piece power scaling Updated

Imu = 100
Joy Boy = 100
Ryuma = 99
Rocks D Xebex = 97
Gol D Roged = 97
Prime Whitebeard = 97
Dracula Mihawk = 97
Red Hair Shanks = 96
Prime Garp = 96
Prime Rayleigh = 96
Akainu = 95
Prime Sengoku = 94
Kaido = 94
Monkey D Dragon = 93
Blackbeard = 92
Prime Shiki = 92
Aokiji = 91
Kizaru = 91
Shiryu = 90
Prime Oden = 90
Fujitora =90
Big Mom = 89
Monkey D Luffy = 89
Roronoa Zoro = 89
Old Rayleigh = 88
Old Garp = 88
Old Sengoku = 88
Wtf why is Akainu above Kaido
 
Why would Yonko be above Ryuma or Mihawk? Mihawk is strongest swordsman and Shanks is a swordsman.
Once again what is obsession of Luffy fans to want his strongest guy to be weaker than so many people?
Why are you disrespecting Luffy by downplaying Zoro?
Are you also a Sanjitard disgused as a Luffy fan?
Bruv its 1+1
Luffy and Kaido fighting equally
Zoro just got done fighting kaidos subordinate high diff
Since when is it disrespectfull for the captain to be stronger than his rhm?????

Strongest Swordsman doesnt mean strongest everything either and Mihawk isnt even weaker than ''so many people'' hes equal if not stronger than shanks. He could prob fight any yonko and push them to high diff except blackbeard.

Id put Mihawk right under every yonko except maybe shanks. Akainu is stronger than him too. Ryuma is a tier higher than Mihawk.
 
Bruv its 1+1
Luffy and Kaido fighting equally
Zoro just got done fighting kaidos subordinate high diff
Since when is it disrespectfull for the captain to be stronger than his rhm?????

Strongest Swordsman doesnt mean strongest everything either and Mihawk isnt even weaker than ''so many people'' hes equal if not stronger than shanks. He could prob fight any yonko and push them to high diff except blackbeard.

Id put Mihawk right under every yonko except maybe shanks. Akainu is stronger than him too. Ryuma is a tier higher than Mihawk.
But isn't Luffys special ability being ability to attract strong allies means the strongest guy following him should be as strong as him at least if not stronger?
Anyone would follow a stronger captain. Even King was following Kaido because of his strength, so Luffys ability to attract strong allies is only as impressive as Kaidos?
For Luffy to be special captain he must be a captain of someone just as capable as him, someone who doesn't need to work under anyone but works under luffy because he's special no?
 
Basically what you are saying is that Luffy will surpass EoS Zoro after Wano?
Do you realize how pathetic that makes Luffy look for Luffy to be above Zoro like any other captain?
It kills all his mystique, his ability to attract strong allies if strongest guy he allied isn't even as low as pirate King level @Adam-san
EOW Luffy is close to EOS Luffy tho. He only has to fight Blackbeard WG and maybe Imu.

EOS zoro will be stronger than EOW Luffy but not drastically since Luffy will be Yonko level EOW.

EOS Zoro>Shanks
 
Id put Mihawk right under every yonko except maybe shanks. Akainu is stronger than him too. Ryuma is a tier higher than Mihawk.
Well I have Mihawk as strongest in the world right now and shanks right under him because swordsmen get more and more hype each day. Zoro basically low diffed strongest commander with his new found power. That's a Yonko level feat since Big Mom clearly ran away from Marco send failed to low diff him.
Once Zoro masters Enma he's basically yonko level..Even then he has ways to go before reaching Mihawk level
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I think you rate marco too high

he's basically resigned himself to being a background character this arc, implying that the worst gen would be the main players of this arc

I'd put him below Kid and Law
Am I rating King too high as well?
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Wtf why is Akainu above Kaido
Portrayal I guess
Strongest marine of this era should be comparable to strongest marine of last era
 
But isn't Luffys special ability being ability to attract strong allies means the strongest guy following him should be as strong as him at least if not stronger?
Anyone would follow a stronger captain. Even King was following Kaido because of his strength, so Luffys ability to attract strong allies is only as impressive as Kaidos?
For Luffy to be special captain he must be a captain of someone just as capable as him, someone who doesn't need to work under anyone but works under luffy because he's special no?
Listen bro, yes luffy attracts people but not all people he attracts end up joining his crew.

Zoro did but they were equal Pre TS up until Ennies Lobby.
Post TS Luffy has shown way more than zoro and Luffy still a special captain.
You dont need stronger subordinates to be special. Look what Luffy already achieved in the few months hes been in the New World.
No one has done what he did pre and post timeskip.
 
Well I have Mihawk as strongest in the world right now and shanks right under him because swordsmen get more and more hype each day. Zoro basically low diffed strongest commander with his new found power. That's a Yonko level feat since Big Mom clearly ran away from Marco send failed to low diff him.
Once Zoro masters Enma he's basically yonko level..Even then he has ways to go before reaching Mihawk level
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Am I rating King too high as well?
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Portrayal I guess
Strongest marine of this era should be comparable to strongest marine of last era
Nah, I think King's ranking is reasonable
 
Listen bro, yes luffy attracts people but not all people he attracts end up joining his crew.

Zoro did but they were equal Pre TS up until Ennies Lobby.
Post TS Luffy has shown way more than zoro and Luffy still a special captain.
You dont need stronger subordinates to be special. Look what Luffy already achieved in the few months hes been in the New World.
No one has done what he did pre and post timeskip.
But like Luffys strongest ability was meant to be able to attract strong allies. How can that work if his strongest guy isn't even barely pirate king level.
Luffy can't be a special captain If his RHM is like every other right hand man.

Don't you think you are downplaying Zoros accomplishments?
He unlocked Advanced CoC in a matter of minutes
Low diffed strongest YC1
Is one of the only two guys in history to permanently scarred Kaido
Blocked and tanked combined attack from two yonko
Made both Big Mom and Kaido shit their pants at the same time
Destroyed mountain
Unlocked Ryou
 
Well I have Mihawk as strongest in the world right now and shanks right under him because swordsmen get more and more hype each day. Zoro basically low diffed strongest commander with his new found power. That's a Yonko level feat since Big Mom clearly ran away from Marco send failed to low diff him.
Once Zoro masters Enma he's basically yonko level..Even then he has ways to go before reaching Mihawk level
Zoro is already the second strongest swordsman.
I dont believe mihawk is the strongest in the verse, for me that'd be BlackBeard, Shanks deffo aint second but the top top tiers arent that far apart.
 
Nah, I think King's ranking is reasonable
Yeah I am just going off of Marco's portrayal
Maybe Law and Kidd are stronger but I just want to see feats from them.

Btw I wanted to ask you.
Would you be interested in joining thirty gen discord?
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Zoro is already the second strongest swordsman.
I dont believe mihawk is the strongest in the verse, for me that'd be BlackBeard, Shanks deffo aint second but the top top tiers arent that far apart.
Zoro isn't second strongest swordsman alive that's Shanks
Zoro is #4 Swordsman after Fuji
Roger is 2nd strongest swordsman ever after Ryuma
Not sure if Mihawk > Roger yet tho
 
Every yonko above ryuma and mihawk.
Eow luffy already as strong as shanks, they will meet as equals.
Blackbeard will be stronger than rocks and zoro is not equal to luffy

I know ur putting Ryuma 3rd so you can place Zoro higher.

Overall okay list just stop the swordsman wank.
I disagree. There's no definitive reason to put Yonkos above Ryuma; he's an ancient legend known as the "God" of swordsmen. It's pure speculation anyway, you can't prove either way.

Also, there's more reason to put Mihawk at or above Shanks' level than there is the reverse. VC says he's waiting for someone to surpass Shanks to challenge him. Shanks is a swordsman and Mihawk is WSS.

I agree Zoro is not exactly equal to Luffy but he is close.
 
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