Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1047 Spoilers Discussion
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PK is not a strength based title. Luffy doesn't have to defeat the strongest to become Pirate King. WSS is a strength based title.
Zoro will be the strongest along with Luffy. Zoro will be the strongest physical fighter while Luffy will be the strongest because of the followers he will be able to gather.
Oda has already set up for Zoro to surpass Oden in Wano. Creating a black blade will put Zoro above Oden level. Kaido ranked Oden with people like Roger and WB.
Zoro still have to surpass Ryuma and Mihawk. Oden has never been compared to Ryuma. That's how much stronger Ryuma was compared to Oden. Mihawk will be even stronger. How can I determine that? By using common sense and understanding how the manga works. Zoro can't fight prime Ryuma because he's dead. Even if he is recognized as the new Ryuma it will be difficult to determine if Zoro surpassed him. Slaying a dragon was only one of his legendary. Unless Oda has Zoro recreate all of Ryuma legendary feats it'll be hard to determine if he surpass Ryuma. Even then, if Zoro's not the WSS there's no way he will recognized as the new god of sword. The best way to recognize Zoro as the new god of sword and stronger than Ryuma is for Mihawk to be stronger and have Zoro and become the WSS.
Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. He called Yonko Shanks has-been. Those are manga facts. What you believe doesn't matter. You are not Oda. Don't give me that but "he couldn't get by Vista" BS. Big Mom ran away from Marco and hybrid Kaido couldn't quickly defeat Yamato. She even had an even clash against her. Similar to Marco clashing evenly against Big Mom. That argument is really dumb. Especially since Mihawk wasn't even serious.
Trying to determine Mihawk's true strength when he's holding back and not even serious is dumb. We all saw what happened with dragon Kaido. You claimed Zoro was slow because he missed dragon Kaido because you thought dragon Kaido was slow. Turns out, Kaido is incredibly fast in Dragon mode. Fast enough to evade FS Snakeman Luffy attacks. Oda man you and everybody else who thought Kaido was slow look dumb.
You are still underestimating the admirals strength. There is a reason Oda is giving Luffy all this power right now including awakening or G5. If you think Luffy is going to fight an admiral in the future in a serious battle and just run through the admiral you're fooling yourself. Remember, the Marines are building up their strength just like the Pirates.
Zoro will be the strongest along with Luffy. Zoro will be the strongest physical fighter while Luffy will be the strongest because of the followers he will be able to gather.
Oda has already set up for Zoro to surpass Oden in Wano. Creating a black blade will put Zoro above Oden level. Kaido ranked Oden with people like Roger and WB.
Zoro still have to surpass Ryuma and Mihawk. Oden has never been compared to Ryuma. That's how much stronger Ryuma was compared to Oden. Mihawk will be even stronger. How can I determine that? By using common sense and understanding how the manga works. Zoro can't fight prime Ryuma because he's dead. Even if he is recognized as the new Ryuma it will be difficult to determine if Zoro surpassed him. Slaying a dragon was only one of his legendary. Unless Oda has Zoro recreate all of Ryuma legendary feats it'll be hard to determine if he surpass Ryuma. Even then, if Zoro's not the WSS there's no way he will recognized as the new god of sword. The best way to recognize Zoro as the new god of sword and stronger than Ryuma is for Mihawk to be stronger and have Zoro and become the WSS.
Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. He called Yonko Shanks has-been. Those are manga facts. What you believe doesn't matter. You are not Oda. Don't give me that but "he couldn't get by Vista" BS. Big Mom ran away from Marco and hybrid Kaido couldn't quickly defeat Yamato. She even had an even clash against her. Similar to Marco clashing evenly against Big Mom. That argument is really dumb. Especially since Mihawk wasn't even serious.
Trying to determine Mihawk's true strength when he's holding back and not even serious is dumb. We all saw what happened with dragon Kaido. You claimed Zoro was slow because he missed dragon Kaido because you thought dragon Kaido was slow. Turns out, Kaido is incredibly fast in Dragon mode. Fast enough to evade FS Snakeman Luffy attacks. Oda man you and everybody else who thought Kaido was slow look dumb.
You are still underestimating the admirals strength. There is a reason Oda is giving Luffy all this power right now including awakening or G5. If you think Luffy is going to fight an admiral in the future in a serious battle and just run through the admiral you're fooling yourself. Remember, the Marines are building up their strength just like the Pirates.
Black blades are being set up to be unbreakable, I don't see how black blades are just "cosmetic" or "useless". Some ridiculously dumb arguments here. If anyone could get the black blades, it would diminish the accomplishments of the WSS. Ryuuma had one too and that MUST be why his sword is in perfect shape, no rust or damage and thus still intact after SEVERAL CENTURIES!
But you know, Black Blades are just cosmetic/useless, hurr durr. They are the pinnacle of swordsmanship and seem to be the result of a life long commitment, an eternal unwavering, fully commited devotion to swordsmanship and strengthening and protecting your blades as well as making your own skills, wit/intellect and such as sharp as your blade will be and needs to be or whatever.
Idk why Oda has ignored this so much in Wano but there must be a reason. It's surely haki related that they are become Black Blades even ofc so maybe Zoro just needs more time? If he fights Mihawk again, Mihawk is not gonna show him mercy again and destroy his swords, even haki coating them may not be enough! He might need to awaken them just before he fights Mihawk to protect them!
He may be able to protect them during the fight temporarily vs Mihawk, to buy some time but if he doesn't awaken them beforehand, he's gonna need to awaken black blades somehow vs Mihawk or Mihawk will destroy them like he did before with 2 of his swords at Baratie!
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Oda hinted at this with Pekoms neg diffing Caribou. Big Mom instantly deflated Luffy after blocking his Gear 4th with a haki coated arm. Luffy took out Caesar easily once he used haki vs him.I'm sure there's more examples ofc. Its probably how Kaido has been low diffing Luffy so easily too, Luffy was purposely given haki training in Udon as well from Rayleigh before ofc and his haki has only been improving with his fights with Kaido as we've evidently seen.
Devil Fruits are like shortcuts to power, making a deal with the devil to gain power hence their "curses" too. Like how Hody and his gang used those steroids with such drastic and especially permanent side effects too.
For all we know, Xebec may have no DF and just been immensely strong in both will and physical strength too!
In a series all about ambition and thus "haki", surely that will be the most important element in it? Pirates are known for their ambition most of all, that fearelessness, adventurous spirit, conquering and taming the oceans and thus waves, no matter how stormy/turbulent the weather is. Having a powerful DF is nice but you still need a strong will to conquer the oceans, beasts other people and thus the world.
"The term "Haki" is a word that has multiple meanings when translated into English. It can mean "ambition", "will power", "drive", "spirit", "vigor" and "aspiration" to name a few. The term itself, however, literally translates to "Supreme Qi".
Blackbeard acts like a pirate very much and is very ambitious but he relies too much on DFs, his will is not that great compared to the likes of Roger, Shanks, Whitebeard, Mihawk, Zoro etc. He still managed to become a Yonko ofc, to turn the world upside down and do impossible and game changing feats but he's had to rely a lot on cunning and trickery which is also a form of ambition (dark ambition) ofc but its not the same as sheer bravado/swagger/willpower/whatever.
Blackbeard will kinda be like the Admirals especially Kizaru who relies on his DF too much as Zephyr said too. (Ignoring how "canon" that film is ofc)
Roger conquered the world and everyone else, he rose to the top, the summit that nobody else reached. He is the Pirate King for a reason. Imu might be a similar case with the entire world too if they really did conquer their way to the top too and especially if they are Xebec too but for whats it worth, Roger threw himself wholeheartedly into the gauntlet without fear and rose to the top by his own will and merit!
Shanks casually did this to Whitebeards ship as he was walking!:
All haki and no DF! Willpower is what matters most! Willpower triumphs over everything! Will power gets you to the top! That has been especially prevalent in the SHs and their tragic, fucked up backstories along with characters like Law, Kidd, Killer, Pedro and such too ofc!
Ryofui once said the driving force of this unethical behavior is an increased desire rather than decreased will power, same goes for survival instinct, these two things makes it unclear which of the two has more will power, Roger or Teach.
Hey zorofanboys I have an agenda for ya
Kaidou/wb/roger>mihawk
Luffy>kaidou(after wano)
AND do you know what
Oda will give you Mihawk vs zoro extreme diff fight
So why the fuck even try to compare
Luffy and zoro
AND also one thing
Kaidou said abilities aren't necessary but where did he said Haki is necessary
I mean you can see blackbeard
Kaidou/wb/roger>mihawk
Luffy>kaidou(after wano)
AND do you know what
Oda will give you Mihawk vs zoro extreme diff fight
So why the fuck even try to compare
Luffy and zoro
AND also one thing
Kaidou said abilities aren't necessary but where did he said Haki is necessary
I mean you can see blackbeard
1010 ended with Luffy uppercutting Kaido.
1036 ended with Luffy punching Kaido in the face.
1037 ended with Luffy kicking Kaido in the stomach.
1041 ended with Luffy punching Kaido with Snakeman.
1044 ended with Luffy deflecting Boro Breath back at Kaido.
1045 ended with Luffy punching Kaido in the face.
1046 ended with Luffy about to hit Kaido with lightning.
1047 (probably) ending with Luffy punching Kaido with a giant fist.
Wtf
8 chapters ended with Luffy hitting Kaido, that's so dumb
1036 ended with Luffy punching Kaido in the face.
1037 ended with Luffy kicking Kaido in the stomach.
1041 ended with Luffy punching Kaido with Snakeman.
1044 ended with Luffy deflecting Boro Breath back at Kaido.
1045 ended with Luffy punching Kaido in the face.
1046 ended with Luffy about to hit Kaido with lightning.
1047 (probably) ending with Luffy punching Kaido with a giant fist.
Wtf
8 chapters ended with Luffy hitting Kaido, that's so dumb
1010 ended with Luffy uppercutting Kaido.
1036 ended with Luffy punching Kaido in the face.
1037 ended with Luffy kicking Kaido in the stomach.
1041 ended with Luffy punching Kaido with Snakeman.
1044 ended with Luffy deflecting Boro Breath back at Kaido.
1045 ended with Luffy punching Kaido in the face.
1046 ended with Luffy about to hit Kaido with lightning.
1047 (probably) ending with Luffy punching Kaido with a giant fist.
Wtf
1036 ended with Luffy punching Kaido in the face.
1037 ended with Luffy kicking Kaido in the stomach.
1041 ended with Luffy punching Kaido with Snakeman.
1044 ended with Luffy deflecting Boro Breath back at Kaido.
1045 ended with Luffy punching Kaido in the face.
1046 ended with Luffy about to hit Kaido with lightning.
1047 (probably) ending with Luffy punching Kaido with a giant fist.
Wtf
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