Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1053 Spoilers Discussion

[Albino 👑]

Shanks is Roger 2.0 failed version : no VOaT, never will be King of the seas
Oden is Roger 2.0
Luffy is Roger 3.0

Shanks still likely has a similar fighting style and haki affinity
Also imo had pk potential before he chose to give up his arm to bet on luffy
Roger even gave him his straw hat

Roger shanks and luffy are the strongest of their individual generation
Also i consider kaido part of the old gen with his other rocks pirate members

 

[Best_Biscuits_5]

No awakening or CoC
Yet the admirals are still OP
The soldiers of justice

 

[MarineHQ]

I think this will be the opposite of Kuzans introduction.

Whereas the SHs were shown to be completely helpless against the first Admiral Shown.

To show how much they've really grown, it will be the opposite and Luffy will embarrass GB.

Sakazuki clearly doesn't think his fellow admirals are invincible the way admiral wankers do.

Hence why he didn't let Borsalino go and tells GB not to do stupid shit.

But Luffy already proved that against Fuji at DR.

 

[Toph]

Aramaki Stole The Show In one Chapter

Casually Negged Kaido's Top 2 Commanders Plus Multiple Beast Pirates

Casually Restoring Wano With his DF Without Even Trying (Continent level feat Loading)

Casually walking towards an alliance that defeated two Yonkos With Multiple Yc Level Characters And 3b Berries Pirates

A Fucken True Beast In Terms of power

He was Worth The Wait

Oda Outdid Himself With Ryokugyu I'm Loving Him

More Feats Coming.

 

[Iam25]

But Luffy already proved that against Fuji at DR.

No he didn't.

And it works.

First admiral shown: Luffy is helpless
Last admiral shown: complete opposite

 

[Sentinel]

The unnecessary downplay is not coming from neutral users.

As long the mention would've made some difference even if a little, it is necessary to be mentioned.

Zoro and Kaido for example where Zoro was heavily nerfed before his final attack. Why do you think the nerf is brought up? It is not because Zoro would win vs Kaido

Sure, there are always users trying to downplay King, saying how weak he is. That's downplay for sure.

I really don't think it would mean that much, the battle conclusion is just too onesided and brutal to which I don't believe certain abilities would make a slight difference tbh.

But Zoro scarred Kaido. His Asura was useful, besides, this was post Hakai Zoro, with several broken bones, no medical treatment and no recovery of 7 days. It's not comparable.

 

[Albino 👑]

By far.

Kizaru looked flashy and he the defeated the SN but Luffy was likely the strongest SN pre ts and he was slapped by Vice Admirals during MF.

Momonga probably solos Luffy and Zoro pre ts lol

Momonga along with the vice admirals he was grouped with were likely "vet" level imo

 

[Finalbeta]

I hope Gorosei are too
we know Kong is a fighter thanks to be the Former Fleet Admiral in Roger Era

Straw Hats(Luffy,Zoro,Sanji,Jinbe,Yamato)
Kid Law Killer
Dragon and Sabo
the Rest of Red Hair Pirates if they not dead
Rayleigh Gaban and former Roger Pirates

need to fight some ennemies in the Final War

Gorosei and CP0 need to land some punch lmao

I wanna see Dragon in action

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Aramaki Stole The Show In one Chapter

Casually Negged Kaido's Top 2 Commanders Plus Multiple Beast Pirates

Casually Restoring Wano With his DF Without Even Trying (Continent level feat Loading)

Casually walking towards an alliance that defeated two Yonkos With Multiple Yc Level Characters And 3b Berries Pirates

A Fucken True Beast In Terms of power

He was Worth The Wait

Oda Outdid Himself With Ryokugyu I'm Loving Him

More Feats Coming.

Your exaggerating, guess the hype is too much right now, can't help it ig

 

[comrade]

A mention of an obvious nerf would make sense if it were opponents comparable to each other

Yeah, that's the point. If they get obliterated at 80% health, they will be obliterated at 100% too. Heck, even if they are at 50%. Kaido and Luffy were on their last legs, yet pulling off high end moves and Haki. With King an Queen resting for 7 days and getting medical care, there really is no excuse.

 

[Finalbeta]

Admiral fans dominated this thread post count wise

We are In the top 3 @MarineHQ62 @AdmiralKinyagi

 

[The White Crane]

ALSO

in these panels it’s more obvious that Ryokugyu has a black blade
@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @MarineHQ62 @Extravlad @Wiwi @The White Crane @ranady

There's no way of saying this without looking like wanking Mihawk, but it's pretty telling that not even an Admiral with a black blade who just loldiffed a Yonko crew was introduced as WSS.

Mihawk is definitely on the upper crust of Admiral level.

 

[Geo]

Sorry but I fail to realise why we're starting this discussion in the first place if it does not change the result??? I'm quite lost, lol.
A mention of an obvious nerf would make sense if it were opponents comparable to each other but like I said, it's not the case here and - once again - King and Queen + dozens of fodders got wiped out. I feel like this is Luffy vs Kaido round 1 2.0 once again. "Luffy didn't have FS!", "Well, he was overly exhausted due to spamming Kong Organ on Kaido and barely had energy left!", "Kaido's club is seastoned, so that's the reason why Luffy got negged" (this one was seriously brought by some users if I recall)..

In Luffy vs Kaido's case, there was no obvious nerf. A better example is Zoro vs Kaido where there was an obvious nerf. Even though removing that nerf wouldn't have meant Zoro would beat Kaido, is it not necessary to mention it?

How do you know that? The fight was off pan

We saw the big explosion which comes from Greenbull's AOE vines which means that's when the fight started.
We don't see any scorching in the surrounding or flames which means no lasers or fire was used.
We see King (who is capable of partial transformation) in base form without flames (yet not knocked out) and getting stabbed.
We see Queen in base as well, not knocked out (even though he only goes base when knocked out)

 

[zzShinichi]

This chapter made rewatching MF more enjoyable

 

[Iam25]

I don't think you want to mention Shanks because took Akainu's manhood real quick The little pup didn't have the balls to challenge Shanks

Now cry about how Oda can only give admirals nerfed opponents to beat. King was literally recovering on a bed lmao These are your heroes? Clown

Funniest part is, they lie and say Sengoku ended the war even though the very next chapter Doflamingo straight up tells Moria that his orders are from people higher than Sengoku.

Sengoku wasn't shit. He had no authority to end the war unless it was something the Gorosei would be ok with.

And we know Imu wants BB dead. Might have to do with him being a D with 2 fruits.

 

[IIskandar1997]

GB introduction was in my opinion the Most Impressive one of the Admirals.
With 2 YC defeated as introduction is an impressive feat.
Even a black Blade as it seems

Eh, just because of the current context, Aokiji and Kizaru had amazing intros, only Fuji had a simple one

 

[Hamlette]

But what does the difference change when the conclusion would be the same? Isn't that the same point you used?

It goes to level of difficulty not the change in conclusion.

My point is that if they were at full power, they would be able to hold out longer...and that is entirely fair.

Because we have no idea how much they have recovered, 90, 80, 70, 60? no one knows. For example, if I challenge MJ to a basketball game and lose miserably, I can say "oh but you know my big toe was hurting" and it's like.......ok but.....I stood no chance to begin with, while maybe I could've preformed a little better, the difference between me and MJ is still astronomical, so your argument is just a nitpick. Oda was showing us the difference in strength between an Admiral and a commander, to remind the readers that there are still monsters ahead to defeat, his intention is then made clear by GBs dialogue. Stressing such little details could only be if someone is trying to argue towards a certain agenda, like the difference between Admirals and commanders not being that significant, which is false; or arguing that Admirals can't be a threat to Yonkos, which is also false. The argument is unnecessary in it's very nature because it proves nothing of significance.

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

By far.

Kizaru looked flashy and he the defeated the SN but Luffy was likely the strongest SN pre ts and he was slapped by Vice Admirals during MF.

Momonga probably solos Luffy and Zoro pre ts lol

Yeah i thought the same ,Kizaru deafeted supernovas,that downplayes it a bit in retrospective now with GB clapping King and Queen
GB walking by onigashima and spouting plants in his path is in my opinion clear indication of Awakening and this Ability could Aid Wano really much.
And it Looks Epic as well :zorothink:

 

[Chrono]

Nope. In aerial battle, King will body Green Bull. No way a Natural Born Winged Fighter (and the one came from race hyped by even Whitebeard, and probably the strongest one from his race) will lose to someone that uses frail flower as the mean to fly.

In aerial, King > Green Bull.
If King remains at sky and spams Tempura Udon then Green Bull has no way to reach him.

Why would they ever have an aerial fight ? Did he have an aerial fight with Zoro ?....

Even then GB will neg-low diff him.

 

[Iam25]

Admiral fans dominated this thread post count wise

We are In the top 3 @MarineHQ62 @AdmiralKinyagi

And two of you don't even read the series