Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1059 Spoilers Discussion

[kurwa]

Larines don't even want the shitty germa science damn
@kurwa i mean when fodders like sanji and queen have it no wonder

...what?

 

[Cinera]

BB full crew vs Sengoku and Garp beat up, differently than BB and Catarina devon and Vasco shot vs Rayleigh

1. Current Teach is far more powerful than MF Teach
2. Rayleigh is alone
3. MF Teach disrespected (and was eager to fight) Old Garp (and Old Sengoku), but current Teach shits his pants (and runs away from) Old Rayleigh

It Is a right translation. Puck translated It.

It's not the Viz translation.

Teach didn’t run they made a deal

Cope.

 

[Seatonnes]

are people genuinely saying this is an L for teach

 

[Shanal]

Stop the cap

Oda only had Captains handle Oden for a reason
WB told his crew to step back when Oden rushed in
Roger told his men to step back when Oden rushed in
Kaido had to step up to handle Oden

When oda does it not once but 3x with different people then it means Prime Oden > Prime Ray >=< Non Prime Oden

Yes. Oda straight up made Rayleigh say that only reason Roger is saying those things is because Roger wants to take Oden for himself.

The entire scene was humorous. Roger's grinning. Ray and Gaban are grinning. Everyone's taking a piss.

Look, mate, you can cope if you want to. But if you need to devolve to THIS level of stupidity and denial of taking something downright stated to be otherwise and a joke as something else... idk what to say, man.

You're not triggering anyone. You're just looking sad and pathetic and downright lol

 

[L55]

...what?

king negs sanji and queen at the same time :cheers:

 

[Soyz]

Rayleigh just admitted he cant defeat teach , even if in his prime he could defeat teach there are still people between garp and blackbeard.
he still loses to kaido , wb, roger and garp, probably luffy now as well.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Where's my tag?

In my heart.

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[Marco]

Kaido putting Oden and not Rayleigh >> your headcanon.

Says the guy with the headcanons of

Garp > WSM WB
Shanks > WSS Mihawk
Zoro~Sanji



Heres some facts for you: Garp put Ray alongside WB, the same way Kaido put Oden alongside WB

 

[kurwa]

king negs sanji and queen at the same time :cheers:

He can't scratch them

 

[Cinera]

Rayleigh + Gaban + other crew members were equal to injured by Roger Oden + Kids of Whitebeard crew. according to the manga.

While the Hero Monkey D. Garp fought to the death with Roger. Translation by Puckthegreat.


Also.


And Kaido sees Oden, Shanks, Roger, Whitebeard and Xebec as the top of piracy, as the strongest pirates he knows and the ones Luffy has the potential to reach and surpass. No Rayleigh here and Kaido knows him.
Garp and Sengoku aren't here because he's talking about Luffy's growth as a pirate and Mihawk isn't here because Kaido doesn't know him but Rayleigh doesn't even any excuse.

Garp > Oden > Rayleigh.

Utter disingenuous rubbish.

Try being less disingenuous if you want a serious reply.

 

[gz89]

did you even read the spoilers

Yeap, he went all the way to AL, beat Hancock and left without taking her DF which was the reason he went there personally

 

[MonsterKaido]

Yeah right.
I don't remember Shanks ever admitting "luckily Green Bull left peacefully, I wouldn't be able to beat him in my crippled state".
I don't remember Green Bull asked a condition for leaving peacefully then Shanks guaranteed it (BB asked Hancock to save his petrified mates).

Shanks (with his whole crew) looked better than Rayleigh now, and he isn't alone too, he is with Shakky, the former Queen of Kuja Pirates.

Teach looked better than Green Bull here.
While Teach is not alone, I see people trying to exaggerate it as if Teach is with his whole crew, while actually he just brings Devon, Vasco, and fodders.

This is obvious. Admirals taking Ls as usual

 

[JoNdule]

Teach leaving a DF he wants = Hyping the man who prevented him from that goal

Prime Ray not doing noteworthy = Oda nerfing him cuz he didn't put much thought in passed events OR at worst case Oda retconing current old Ray (which ray admits is weaker than his prime self)

Garp saying they don't have the power to deal with legends like Whitebeard AND Ray = Hype for Ray as a big power even in old age

Garp spoke facts which is why Ray stopping an admiral or an Emperor doesn't come as a surprise to most readers

Prime Ray is in the same league as the strongest top tiers, that you must atleast admit? Doesn't matter if I think he would win or you think he would lose

So you still have nothing?

We saw Prime Ray in Oden flashback ...nobody gave a damn about him
He didn't do anything amazing that Oden and Kaido hyped

you rely on "Prime Ray could / would " imaginations while in canon manga...Prime Ray can't make Roger pirates beat WBP or BMP or shiki fleets lol

 

[KiriNigiri]

The Seraphim are just clones of the Warlords? What is morbid about that? Lol

They wouldn't have Lunarian DNA without torturing King for it. Plus obtaining DNA from the Warlords without seemingly their consent doesn't sit well with me.

 

[L55]

He can't scratch them

Queen almost died from mere explosions and Lanji got packed by paper wall
Jackpot one shots both

 

[kurwa]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1567501022381105154

@EtenBoby , @OnePiss , @RobertoTheOharaSurvivor , @Meeyori
OMG THEY LOOK AMAZING!!

pokemon is so shit after gen 3

what happened to them being based on animals?

 

[Peroroncino]

 

[Bogard]

About the Blackbeard vs Old Rayleigh debate, difficult to debate properly until the scans are out(especially with the viz), but based on the infos we have thus far, after the conflict, we have

> Rayleigh admitting that he couldn't beat Blackbeard at his current age
> That things were been favorable for them
> Hancock was saved while Coby ended up captured

So whatever off-panel thing that happened leading to Coby's capture had nothing to do with a strength issue on Blackbeard's part. The favorable circumstances mentioned by Rayleigh is the key point here

With that said, obviously despite being old, Rayleigh is still a threat to top tiers

 

[JoNdule]

Utter disingenuous rubbish.

Try being less disingenuous if you want a serious reply.

At least that guy post canon facts,

Says a dude with outrageous takes believing nonsense
Writing crap everyday that Rayleigh > garp/yonko
Or Mihawk is above Yonko currently
Or zoro is fast as Luffy/Sanji ..can push Kaido past mid diff

 

[Marco]

So you still have nothing?

We saw Prime Ray in Oden flashback ...nobody gave a damn about him
He didn't do anything amazing that Oden and Kaido hyped

you rely on "Prime Ray could / would " imaginations while in canon manga...Prime Ray can't make Roger pirates beat WBP or BMP or shiki fleets lol

Damn Yonko BB is such a coward fearing a man who admits he got weaker & that couldn't even scare kids in his prime