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This is why I say post WCI Luffy> King, despite Zoro being much stronger than post WCI Luffy.

Zoro beat a YC1 in minutes
Luffy did so in hours

just because Luffy can’t beat king in 10 minutes like zoro doesn’t mean he can’t win in 12 hours like he did against kata. By portrayal, act 1 Luffy >YC1s.
 
Zoro beat king in minutes

fights between high tiers can go on for hours, even days. Just because sanji can’t beat king in minutes doesn’t mean he can’t do so in hours or days.

Im talking about some idiots who said IJ is 1HKO. Tbh even if they fought for hours who knows if IJ can lasts more than King's defenese.
 

Gol D. Roger

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All that talk just to see his boy being reduced to going toe-to-toe with Oven

I am genuinely sad for him. I better prepare Katakuri cope arguments. I can't let Katakuri hype die for Luffy's sake lmao.

This is why I say post WCI Luffy> King, despite Zoro being much stronger than post WCI Luffy.

Zoro beat a YC1 in minutes
Luffy did so in hours

just because Luffy can’t beat king in 10 minutes like zoro doesn’t mean he can’t win in 12 hours like he did against kata. By portrayal, act 1 Luffy >YC1s.
What does the time frame have anything to do with how strong someone is? Kaido lost to faster than Katakuri while King lost to Zoro faster than Pica. That's some fucked up power scaling methodology right there.
 

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This is why I say post WCI Luffy> King, despite Zoro being much stronger than post WCI Luffy.

Zoro beat a YC1 in minutes
Luffy did so in hours

just because Luffy can’t beat king in 10 minutes like zoro doesn’t mean he can’t win in 12 hours like he did against kata. By portrayal, act 1 Luffy >YC1s.
Lmfao stfu zoro one shots kata and wci luffy
King also rag dolls both

King lost to zoro because zoros ap which could scar kaido had a massive boost
 
I guess the downside is that SSG can't mass produce them like pacifista?
I don't like the idea of not being able to mass produce something which is done through science.....Same with the RS/Germa shit. There is no reason as to why they can't be mass produced...especially when Queen has those abilities too.
 
Ohh. My bad. This Exactly as you wrote. They issued bounty after fell of Kaido during celebration and when Luffy's first bounty was introduced.

Yeah. Today I'm free so I'll do it to kill my boredom. Lol


Now here's even more detailed series of events :

- Chapter 956, Revocation of Schibukai system. Coby went to Amazon Lily to capture Boa Hancock.

- Chapter 957, for the first time bounties of old yonkos were revealed. That is after schibukais were abolished and marines confirmed the revival of Rocks after continuation from chapter 956 events.

Now Brannew revealed BBs bounty is 2.247B as emperor and that is revealed when schibukais system got abolished and Coby went to Amazon Lily, now even in flashback that's when BB fought with both marines and Kuza pirates.

Now you have to believe it's either 2.247B at that time or suddenly in few hours it becomes 3.99B !?

Believe it or not but Oda revealed the boost in this way just to hype up Boa and BB fight and in flashback.

While all these new bounties of schibukais or emperors starts spreading after Luffy beat down Kaido and on the celebration day as showed in chapter 1053 when newspapers started worldwide release till now chapter 1059 (spoilers).

Chapter 956-957 thing made it even more concrete that Oda/Marines reveals all new bounties after the end of events in Wano.

Also WG and Oda is definitely putting emphasis on these schibukais former relationships with WG in there bounties boost.... like Bogard had said this speculation might be true.. What do you think ?
So:

Rayleigh was in front of a Blackbeard with a bounty of 2,200,000,000

And Teach gained a 4 bilion bounty for what he did at Amazon lily and for taking Coby with him?

This makes more sense, so that Teach with 2 bilion bounty Is a fresh Yonko, makes sense that Prime Rayleigh could have defeated him, since that Teach isn't on Shanks level yet.
And Coby boosting Teach's bounty? Didn't expect less from the Hero.
Thank you.
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
This chapter is an insane hype for Kizaru and Admirals in general.

An ACoQ Haki beginners like Luffy and Zoro can injure Kaido badly, with the latter scarring him permanently.

The PK's partner Rayleigh who specializes in Haki and was compared to Shanks only gave Kizaru a paper cut, which he wasn't paying attention to in the first place

Admirals are built different :finally:
only logia admirals
kizaru>>>aramaki:myman:
 
This is why I say post WCI Luffy> King, despite Zoro being much stronger than post WCI Luffy.

Zoro beat a YC1 in minutes
Luffy did so in hours

just because Luffy can’t beat king in 10 minutes like zoro doesn’t mean he can’t win in 12 hours like he did against kata. By portrayal, act 1 Luffy >YC1s.
King would low diff Post WCI luffy and mid diff chapter 1000 Luffy

I place roof top Zoro a tier above chapter 1000 Luffy
And this just reinforces it
King will literally take a nap through gear 4th and then kill Luffy with magma explosion

Also Low and Midd ain't doing shit either
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
They are strong but I would not put them over the YCs at least YC1s even though their bounty maybe higher. They were underrated though with all of them possibly above at least Tobi Roppo level.
Nah I'm seriously starting to think whether we overrated the Yonko Commanders while underrating the Warlords. Atp, I think each Warlord is atleast bare minimum a YC tier at worst to begin with.

Like the portrayal is just there. Jozu a powerful YC was used as a stool by Doflamingo.
Jozu lost his entire career the moment he lost concentration for a second against Kuzan while Doffy literally turned his back and gave him a free shot!
Kata couldnt put down Luffy after pummeling him for hours while Luffy was unconscious for 3 days post Doffy.
Kata's Awakening AOE wasnt even bigger than a part of Mirrorworld while Doffy turned entire towns & buildings casually into strings...

Arc wise opponents WILL be nerfed so that Luffy can beat them via plot. That doesnt take away from their overall standing in the verse. Like pre Ts luffy vs Crocodile or Enel or Shiki f. ex.

Idk anymore man, I no longer view Yc1 as a cap for Doffy & I'm at my wits end in scaling most Warlords tbh with you.

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Considering the time gap it is really shocking that BB did not return with his crew to take Boa's fruit which is something that both WG and BB are after.
Nah there isnt any really. The invasion by BBP this chapter happens during the Marine invasion in 956.

After that as well, Boa Hancock does not need to stay at Amazon Lily (even though she did) & BB probably has something else going on maybe.
 
Aight fair enough that makes sense I concede, I didnt think about 956/957 when I was thinking about those bounties. You win this debate and that proves my argument wrong :catsweat:
Now only thing left is skills coz Oda is already dead set to hype up Shanks as current strongest. :blobevil:

Look he even has the highest bounty amongst the active pirates... :afrokappa:
As I said earlier, I dont think Shichibukai bounties are boosted in anyway, they're just really powerful individual pirates who the community underrated for so long.
Nahh. First Crocodile and now Boa made it completely looks true that there titles and former affiliations with WG are affecting bounties.

Crocodile's case is same as old, no strength revelation but considering him being around or above YC1 level but below even half yonko, he got around 600 to 900M boost in comparison to King or Katakuri. Compared with them other than Zoro only coz they both are quite notorious crew in threat just like CG.

While Boa Hancock got 1.6B but with her unique/fearsome DF abilities she might have oneshot Vasco and Catalina but she herself got captured easily by BB as well. Couldn't even evade or counter BB with haki. I believe she's at most YC level but but still got more bounty than even Luffy who defeated two commanders far stronger than BBs current two commanders at amazon lily and survived against BM. Here Compared with Luffy coz he's captain as well just like Boa and situation is quite similar.

Jimbei's previous bounty was around 400M but without defeating YC he got above 1B mark and sitting at the same level as Zoro. Again around 700M boost.

So what would you believe about there bounties in comparison to there capabilities and strength if not boosted due to affiliation with WG.
But why would Marines wait for two weeks to issue bounties for Warlords if they are already sending their fleets to capture the same?
It's not about waiting for two weeks. It's only because two Emperors seats have to be filled up with new one and than updating everything with that like current events of BB too at Amazon lily (especially cobys abduction).
 
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