Who’s a better villain?


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Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
imagine if after all this arguing
they don't even fight
Lucci mission is to get VP and not engage themselves against a yonkou crew.

They don't even have enough numbers to hold SHs down


So, Lucci should focus on getting to VP and not pick fight with Luffy as they will hit a wall which they can't surpass.

Stussy is key here. She can pull something to deceive Luffy
 
Lucci mission is to get VP and not engage themselves against a yonkou crew.

They don't even have enough numbers to hold SHs down


So, Lucci should focus on getting to VP and not pick fight with Luffy as they will hit a wall which they can't surpass.

Stussy is key here. She can pull something to deceive Luffy
After Lucci is defeated
"And that's yonko Luffy, he just defeated Kaido 2 weeks ago"
"Please, tell those things beforehand."
 
Is Vegapunk really so naive that he thinks all wars are caused by battles over resources? No religious wars? No racist wars? No civil wars? No revolutions? Plus, he literally knows Judge, and Judge's wars were mostly for personal/family glory, not resources. Is he really dumb enough that he thinks if everyone has "energy," then all wars will stop?
I think oda doesn't want to make it too complex /realistic
adding all those layers to it would be excessive .


this way it would seem plausible that peace is achieved if vegapunk gets to work . after all, we are following the story of a messiah that will restore balance in the entire world.
 
Is Vegapunk really so naive that he thinks all wars are caused by battles over resources? No religious wars? No racist wars? No civil wars? No revolutions? Plus, he literally knows Judge, and Judge's wars were mostly for personal/family glory, not resources. Is he really dumb enough that he thinks if everyone has "energy," then all wars will stop?
First The Nika Nika Fruit,
Now Unlimited Happy Energy.

Looney Tunes Piece.
:steef:

Can't wait for Party Party fruit.
:finally:
 

Mr. Tuna Sandwich

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
Is Vegapunk really so naive that he thinks all wars are caused by battles over resources? No religious wars? No racist wars? No civil wars? No revolutions? Plus, he literally knows Judge, and Judge's wars were mostly for personal/family glory, not resources. Is he really dumb enough that he thinks if everyone has "energy," then all wars will stop?
Vegapunk is a fraud
He have warp and flight tech yet he need an escort?
Why he wait for CP-0 to come to kill him in the first place?
His own creation (seraphim) are used against him.
Smartest man maybe in Two Piece smh
 
Is Vegapunk really so naive that he thinks all wars are caused by battles over resources? No religious wars? No racist wars? No civil wars? No revolutions? Plus, he literally knows Judge, and Judge's wars were mostly for personal/family glory, not resources. Is he really dumb enough that he thinks if everyone has "energy," then all wars will stop?
I think he has a pretty valid point, because when you stop to think about it most of the reasons behind these wars that you just typed started existing because of poverty and inequeality, the constant conflict between the privileged and the oppresed, extremely rich and powerful people wanting more power and resources despite what it takes, which ends up in prejudice in a way or another

But if everyone equally start getting more resources easier they might start wanting to enjoy their lives more, instead of trying to find reasons to kill themselves and to unfairly explorate each other for the sake of their own selfish and neverending benefits.

Don't forget he is a character that lives in the One Piece verse
 
Vegapunk is a fraud
He have warp and flight tech yet he need an escort?
Why he wait for CP-0 to come to kill him in the first place?
His own creation (seraphim) are used against him.
Smartest man maybe in Two Piece smh
Because of ~fate~ :daydream:

He probably didn’t want to leave the island until the last second, assuming he does research every day.

Maybe he has an emergency button for the Seraphim that turns them off or self destructs them?

We don’t know everything yet, but yeah the storytelling is a bit confusing right now. :kobeha:
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Is Vegapunk really so naive that he thinks all wars are caused by battles over resources? No religious wars? No racist wars? No civil wars? No revolutions? Plus, he literally knows Judge, and Judge's wars were mostly for personal/family glory, not resources. Is he really dumb enough that he thinks if everyone has "energy," then all wars will stop?
I think that's more of a general statement.

We have seen MF war and it happened to free Ace so one can conclude that oda is trying to give reference to Ancient war and importance of Energy source
 
I think oda doesn't want to make it too complex /realistic
adding all those layers to it would be excessive .


this way it would seem plausible that peace is achieved if vegapunk gets to work . after all, we are following the story of a messiah that will restore balance in the entire world.
I hear you, but surely there's more to it than "energy." I think he's holding back on saying exactly what the energy is because it has some other features we don't know about yet, as far as how it fits in with AK lore.

I think he has a pretty valid point, because when you stop to think about it most of the reasons behind these wars that you just typed started existing because of poverty and inequeality, the constant conflict between the privileged and the oppresed, extremely rich and powerful people wanting more power and resources despite what it takes, which ends up in prejudice in a way or another

But if everyone equally start getting more resources easier they might start wanting to enjoy their lives more, instead of trying to find reasons to kill themselves and to unfairly explorate each other for the sake of their own selfish and neverending benefits.

Don't forget he is a character that lives in the One Piece verse
Some wars are fought merely for vanity, and we have that in OP as well. There are also wars fought over political ideals and philosophies that aren't purely about resources.

I was thinking if everyone's lives improved in OP because of unlimited energy, it might temporarily cause more wars as regular people would have the means to refuse to be oppressed by CDs. Maybe giving the whole world unlimited energy is the first step towards Dragon's big revolution?
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Vegapunk is a fraud
He have warp and flight tech yet he need an escort?
Why he wait for CP-0 to come to kill him in the first place?
His own creation (seraphim) are used against him.
Smartest man maybe in Two Piece smh
Or he knows more about the Joyboy prophecy than he's let on, so he knows he needs Luffy somehow? IDK I'm guessing here
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Is Vegapunk really so naive that he thinks all wars are caused by battles over resources? No religious wars? No racist wars? No civil wars? No revolutions? Plus, he literally knows Judge, and Judge's wars were mostly for personal/family glory, not resources. Is he really dumb enough that he thinks if everyone has "energy," then all wars will stop?
To be fair, he never read about war in a book so he's totally clueless here.
 
To be fair, he never read about war in a book so he's totally clueless here.
I just reread the whole Gerard vs Byakuya/Kenpachi/Hitsugaya fight.

Damn, Gerard is even more beast than I thought.
Basically, Kenpachi's bankai did NOTHING for him. Sure Bankai Kenpachi cut him into 2 clean pieces yet basically it does nothing. Gerard came back as if nothing happened, with new form, and stronger than ever. While Kenpachi tried to fight back, his arm snapped and he got stomped.

Then we have adult Hitsugaya vs Gerard who just fought Bankai Kenpachi. Then it turned out into 3 vs 1 again soon. Adult Hitsugaya froze him, Kenpachi grabbed Gerard's leg and Byakuya destroyed Gerard's whole head with new technique.
And still it wasn't over yet.

He basically ran gauntlet and soloed 3 Top Tier Soul Society Captains and still not losing.

It is like he is Phoenix Marco on steroid + Saiyan race combined.
 
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Gorosei Informer

Luffy and the gang will go on a spaceship built by Vegapunk and go to the Moon. The ancient power source lies there.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. The ancient power source is probs Sanjis flames origins.

Vegapanks Oda draft leaks and Sanjis speech to Kuma about to come true in future potentially lol.

Zoros gold earrings match the sky people drawings Enel found too I think, one of those people had similar earrings IIRC?

The Revolutionary Lindbergh has tech matching the moon people we saw in Enel cover story too.

The Birka city on the moon was probably sent into space somehow and thus to the moon, in a more extreme situation of what happened to that part of Jaya into Skypeia? Upper yard I think?
Enel was supposed to have destoyed Birka too?

I don't think it's coincidence Oda keeps focusing on lightning with Nami in various ways, including saying she should get Enels fruit and drawing that too.
@AverageNamiEnjoyer @OnePiss

I've always hoped Vegapunk would introduce flying ships and spaceships/space travel somehow. I see Franky building a cola powered rocket to go the moon easily. Oda showing major Gurenn Lagann vibes with him.

There's such an extreme amount of stuff that connects Sanji to space too including Gurren Lagann again too.
 
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Impact_Dial

Vegapunk will help luffy harness the sun god part of his g5 we will start seeing sun level heat feats from him which will put him to god level so he can compete with imu and exceed rocks and rodger :luffylaugh:After he spills the beans in a way luffy will understand. My headcannon.
 
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