Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1070 Spoilers Discussion

[Indigo]

The order is fine so far.

just trying to squeeze in two extra tags now since the users here are getting more and more posts, we can have extra posts/tags. But that’s up to bogard

Hang on a minute, don't you dare take Zoro off of the number 1 spot, or Mihawk from me

 

[Bassaluna]

Vegapunk said "practically impossible" to replicate logia fruits, not that they were impossible and we know he has history with Kizaru, so we might learn he actually did manage to replicate a logia fruit, just that it's very difficult

he duplicated the ability to shoot laser beams, not how to make light humans

 

[Hako Sama]

So Seraphim Crocodile won't have a DF because logia is hard to copy ?

Maybe he could still use some of Crocodile's attacks, but without all the Intangibility/Body Transformation.
Because honestly, Seraphim Croc with just Kizaru's laser is a bit pointless ngl.

 

[Paperchampion23]

To me the whole "pacifistas lasers come from Kizaru" shit never made sense. I might be wrong, but from what I recall that idea came only from Drake, who has nothing to do with science, and not only Vega had lazer tech in his old lab(wich was used by him when he was still a child) but Queen and Judge were also able to create lazer tech, and I really doubt MADs had access to Kizaru's blood even if he was just a vice admiral at the time. I think Drake was only comparing the lasers to Kizaru's powers, since he is the main lazer guy, but the lazers themselves have nothing to do with his powers, they are just regular lazers like the ones we have in the real world, thats my guess at least

It sounds more like the tech Vegapunk created is based on his powers, but not necessarily that it is copying DF powers completely. Franky also has lasers too as am example, based on copying old tech from his homeland.

 

[Bassaluna]

Maybe he could still use some of Crocodile's attacks, but without all the Intangibility/Body Transformation.
Because honestly, Seraphim Croc with just Kizaru's laser is a bit pointless ngl.

that means one spot is open
SERAPHIM BUGGY IS COMING

 

[Roo]

Didn’t they only have Kaido for like a day?

we don't know, again in this chapter he says mythical zoans are a lot harder to recreate

 

[Impact_Dial]

To me the whole "pacifistas lasers come from Kizaru" shit never made sense. I might be wrong, but from what I recall that idea came only from Drake, who has nothing to do with science, and not only Vega had lazer tech in his old lab(wich was used by him when he was still a child) but Queen and Judge were also able to create lazer tech, and I really doubt MADs had access to Kizaru's blood even if he was just a vice admiral at the time. I think Drake was only comparing the lasers to Kizaru's powers, since he is the main lazer guy, but the lazers themselves have nothing to do with his powers, they are just regular lazers like the ones we have in the real world, thats my guess at least

Im Thinking that Vegapunk stopped at around 15% during the duplication process of kizarus df he got in trouble with the wg , logia being on top of the df food chain and the way logias are seem like they could have a tie to the unlimited energy source that the anicent kingdom has why do u think cp0 is coming to kill him. He also doesn't even want to talk about the subject according to spoilers.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@Mr. Reloaded @Rottkins
It can’t be a coincidence the only warlord abilities that Vegapunk would be unable to perfectly emulate are Mihawks black blade and crocodiles devil fruit

That's why they're the GOATS!

 

[Jailer]

Where does it say 20 years for one mythical Zoan? Just give him Luffy’s lineage factor and a few days then boom.

Lol the spoilers literally disagree with you:

Mythological models are very difficult to replicate because of their special conditions.

And here he said he spent 20 years for that shit

 

[IIskandar1997]

hmm not really.
we saw invankov mistaking kuma's laser for kizaru remember so there is atleast 2 characters pointed the similarity which support the idea that the laser might come from kizaru

Iva aint a scientist either so he could be going with the same logic as Drake. Like I said, Vega had lazer tech ever since he was young, so unless he had access to the Pika pika even back then I dont see how that would make sense

 

[Worst]

The reason I am guessing he can't duplicate a logia is because of the way they are made. They are essentially an element from nature, he basically would need to replicate a power to transform other people into natural matter

Yeah while Paramechia and Zoans are " just " body mutations,so he an just apply that mutation to the body, copying a Logia would mean turning a person into a natural element that's probably too much....i wonder why Mythical Zoans are even more rare though i mean there are not many natural elements while you can think at a lot more mythical creatures

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

we don't know, again in this chapter he says mythical zoans are a lot harder to recreate

Well his explanation for normal zoans is that “they’re just animals” which implies animal DNA/lineage factor is what it takes to replicate them.

So then mythicals require you to get for example “Dragon DNA” from the host so you have to take their DNA like a paramecia and then further isolate the animal component.

So it’s hard but it’s not that hard.

 

[Ashlee]

we don't know, again in this chapter he says mythical zoans are a lot harder to recreate

Plus he considers his Azure Dragon clone fruit a failure just because it came out pink, so an extra layer of who the fuck knows lol

 

[Soyz]

Well if this would be true.... It would still the question. What use has his RS if his ability would have been invisibility from the genes? Double invisibility?

The suit amplify their ability, i agree its kinda weird with invisibility but its confirmed sanji was supposed to be stealth black and his powers are invisibility not fire.

 

[Jailer]

Yeah while Paramechia and Zoans are " just " body mutations,so he an just apply that mutation to the body, copying a Zoan would mean turning a person into a natural element that's probably too much....i wonder why Mythical Zoans are even more rare though i mean there are not many natural elements while you can think at a lot more mythical creatures

Probably because of their extra abilities mythical zoans have. Duplicating Marco's zoan I imagine would be an impossible task. There seem to be some special conditions, to duplicate Kaido's df he spent 20 years for that not counting resources/money spent for resources, time, all that.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Well his explanation for normal zoans is that “they’re just animals” which implies animal DNA/lineage factor is what it takes to replicate them.

So then mythicals require you to get for example “Dragon DNA” from the host so you have to take their DNA like a paramecia and then further isolate the animal component.

So it’s hard but it’s not that hard.

I also think this will get further clarified in the full spoilers but I think I’m right.

 

[Kingslayer]

yonko vs admiral autismo is back

 

[T.D.A]

probably took a piece of dna from one of the warlord meetings

Law was a Shichibukai too. They must have had a meeting with him at least once

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Hang on a minute, don't you dare take Zoro off of the number 1 spot, or Mihawk from me

King is going to be the last tag instead of Zoro.

 

[Hedfi]

The reason I am guessing he can't duplicate a logia is because of the way they are made. They are essentially an element from nature, he basically would need to replicate a power to transform other people into natural matter

Maybe Logias don't actually turn people into an element but they are just made to appear that way. It's possible that Logias don't really transform the eater's Lineage factor and that's why Vega is finding almost impossible to recreate their powers.

What if Logias are actually the manifestation of some sort of a parallel dimension of a particular element and the user is just the gateway to said dimension. If that's the case then Logia awakening could very possibly be bringing said dimention to reality and drown the world around them in their elemental powers.