Which character is stronger ?


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So having more speed would not defeat hody is what you are saying? Even though that was a huge factor in his and luffys fight? Dumb logic.

Weakend luffy has shown no feat under water that was above sanji or zoro. That's why I question your understanding
I never claimed that Luffy was faster underwater than Luffy/Sanji, so I don't know where you got that from.

And no, being faster than Hody was not what defeated him, that was the point of the Katakuri fight lol.
 
Semantics. Zoro's mission was to guard the area while Kaku's mission is to destroy the area. Lucci ordering Seraphims to destroy the area basically means they should help Kaku. Seraphims shooting the area will also distract Zoro, thus will stop him from bullying Kaku further.

You know what you did do though? It is making shit up. It is Sanji and Franky, not Jinbe and Sanji.
Lmao, no it is not semantics. There is a World of difference between "destroy the lab" and "help Kaku with Zoro."

Franky is much weaker than Jinbei.... That didn't make it any better for you. :cheers:
 
they hunt them only when there is nothing else to hunt, during the great migration, lions never go out of their way to hunt giraffes, heck they even avoid them normaly

I told you that preditors do try their luck on every newborn species, leopards even try eating newborn rhinos, it doesn't then mean leopards hunt rhinos, please stop being silly
Yes it does. That means there is an established prey - predator relationship. So what if they only hunt them in the dry season. It still makes them their predator.
 
I never claimed that Luffy was faster underwater than Luffy/Sanji, so I don't know where you got that from.

And no, being faster than Hody was not what defeated him, that was the point of the Katakuri fight lol.
1. Cap. Luffys attacks would have landed quicker. It was made obvious that reduction in speed and power as a fruit user was establish.

2. Katakuri is a horrible example since kats reaction speed was higher so even in that fight speed was a factor hence why luffy entered a striking speed form known as snake man.
 
Just because you studied it, doesn't mean your word is gospel truth. Show me some sources where that's the case, then we're talking. A simple google search has proven you wrong.
first truthful thing you said today

Yes my word on the subject is not gospel but for starters im more knowledgable about this than you thats for sure, your google search even tells you that preditors will always target new born cuffs, show me where on google it told you leopards hunt giraffes
 
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