Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion

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TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Kuri ain’t dodging Luccis attacks Gear 5 fights at a higher speed than snake man and sure lucci was getting overwhelmed but he was able to react to gear 5 at least.
Yeah, Lucci 100% looks better than the Top Commanders right now. Considering he's fighting in a weight class a level above them (Zoro/Luffy) and holding his own.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I was literally told earlier:

- Saturn being send flying by a punch from 0.0001HP Kuma through the island doesn't mean anything about his physical stats because he regenerates.
- Saturn's attack being swatted aside by Base Sanji doesn't say anything about his physical stats because he regenerates.
- That a building crushes his arm and turns him into a bloody mess also doesn't say anything about his durability because he regenerates.

But Sentomaru the man that specialises in defence blocking a kick from Kizaru means Vets > AdmiraLs
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Saturn regenerating from an absolutely laughable attack proves he is top tier,

But Ryokugyu regenerating from his overwhelming elemental weakness proves Ryokugyu is a fraud. Lol

Kizaru one shotting Gear 4 and zero shotting Gear 5 proves Kizaru is a fraud,

But Saturn getting an attack deflected by Sanji…proves he is top tier? Lol

No cap Fuji’s rubble would kill all 5 Gorosei at once.
 
We just got the example with Kizaru having no problem handling snakemans speed but being caught off guard by gear 5s.
Gear 5 in every stat ranges from Base level to above G4 level. I believe that's a common thing now, like, not every attack is thrown with the same force or speed meaning when Luffy turns up he might very well be > Snakeman in speed but I don't think he really tried being fast against Lucci while he had to catch up to Kizaru.
 
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