Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion

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What do you mean by he's not out for good? He literally can't continue to fight. That's a complete defeat. And how are we supposed to know how long it'd take him to recover from the damage?
Why would Jinbei attack a defeated opponent if they were clearly no longer a threat?

With a named attack no less

Did Zoro win? Yes, but if Lucci was no longer a threat due to the damage he took then Jinbei wouldn't feel the need to attack him again

Unless you think there's another explanation
 

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He never lost consciousness. If the Jailer beasts can get back up from being KOed multiple times and they aren't even fully awakened zoans, then I'm sure a fully awakened Zoan whose still conscious would recover much quicker.
They recover differently for different levels of damage. How long you'd take to recover depends on how much damage you take, not based on whether you remained conscious or not. Lucci got up from Luffy's attacks seconds after getting hit while I can bet after Zoro's attack, Lucci won't be ready to fight for a while. Perhaps, the whole arc will end without Lucci getting any action. That's a complete and utter defeat.

The beasts were defeated by Luffy before they eventually recovered. You don't refrain from calling a defeat a defeat just because peeps can recover from attacks unless they recover immediately and continue the fight, which Lucci evidently can't do. What if he got KO'ed and then got up after ten seconds? You'd call it a defeat. But if you're not unconscious and still take hours if not days to recover, that's not defeat?
 
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