Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion

[MonsterKaido]

No gorosei are currently on par with Yonkos and Admirals. One has shown tremendous haki and one has shown sword skills. Add to that, they all have regeneration which is even more hax than not getting damaged like Kaidou or Bigmom. The only thing that was not tried against them was CoC coating and CoC+Coa coating. If both of them doesn't work, then we can put them confidently above Yonkos and Admirals.

Coincidentally no adv coc attacks have been used on gorosei. They are bound to have weakness and will get defeated by zoro/sanji/law/kidd/sabo etc.

 

[zenox]

This would maybe be the case if Oda did not bash into our skulls that both Kuzan and Borsalino were wavering. At this point you would literally have to have the most extreme form of autism possible to think otherwise.

wavering doesnt mean u can be treated like a fodder buddy
kuzan's punching power was highlighted against garp
kizaru's defense was highlighted against sentomaru

both of them got some relation but it doesnt mean they simply stop fighting


the portrayal is very clear in both the fights

 

[Tejas]

Damn you’ve received a malpractice claim everytime an admiral had the upper hand on a Yonko?

So you got like 6 during marineford? That’s very concerning

Even in Marineford WB 2 shot Akainu on his deathbed how is that an upper hand?
Are you literally counting the number of times an AdmiraL's hand is placed above a Yonko hand? It's a figure of speech

 

[Welkin]

What are you even arguing ? That Zoro couldn’t get it done ?

No, that Lucci needed to be put down/knocked out and Zoro would need another attack to do it

Lucci was stunned

There's nothing stopping Zoro from hitting him again and likely KOing him

 

[JackThaConflagration]

No gorosei are currently on par with Yonkos and Admirals. One has shown tremendous haki and one has shown sword skills. Add to that, they all have regeneration which is even more hax than not getting damaged like Kaidou or Bigmom. The only thing that was not tried against them was CoC coating and CoC+Coa coating. If both of them doesn't work, then we can put them confidently above Yonkos and Admirals.

Logic suggests they are far above yonko, admiral
Being the final villains of the series, and ruling the world for 800years.

 

[Monster Luffy]

Coincidentally no adv coc attacks have been used on gorosei. They are bound to have weakness and will get defeated by zoro/sanji/law/kidd/sabo etc.

Who knows at the point, Oda is just playing dumb or new arc forgot old powers struck again in one piece. And to top it off, three week break for god knows what reason.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Who knows at the point, Oda is just playing dumb or new arc forgot old powers struck again in one piece. And to top it off, three week break for god knows what reason.

Its not really that much of a big deal. Their immortality is either tied to something or has some kind of weakness. Sanji more than likely will beat a gorosei at Eos. Worm or marcus.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Having regen =/= being stronger.

It does if your opponent literally cannot bypass it

 

[Monster Luffy]

Logic suggests they are far above yonko, admiral
Being the final villains of the series, and ruling the world for 800years.

Immortality has nothing to do with strength. Of course they can be extremely strong but not necessarily has anything to do with immortality. Even Brook to some extent is counted as Immortal isn't it?

 

[MonsterKaido]

It does if your opponent literally cannot bypass it

And how do you reckon they will be defeated? Who will beat them?

 

[park_min young]

Admirals know they answer to the Gorosei, the Yonkou think they are ruling, but really they're just dancing to the WG's tune.

With the amount of top tiers the WG have, and how the Yonkou are not united. Wiping out the Yonkou is like taking candy from a baby. It's becoming more and more obvious with each passing chapter.

That really depends, I’m beginning to think a single top-tier is still a big threat against multiple top-tiers. We’re seeing that right now with Luffy. I think high-top-tiers like Roger, WB, Kaido, Shanks can hold their own and might even take down one of the opposing top-tiers if they go all-out. They have the firepower necessary to do so. Though the gorosei has that immortality thing going on lol

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

wavering doesnt mean u can be treated like a fodder buddy
kuzan's punching power was highlighted against garp
kizaru's defense was highlighted against sentomaru

both of them got some relation but it doesnt mean they simply stop fighting


the portrayal is very clear in both the fights

Except that wavering clearly does affect performance.

Just look at this chapter. If Kizaru really wanted to, he could go back to the battlefield.

But he doesn’t. And that alone is proof that he’s not doing everything in his power.

 

[JackThaConflagration]

Immortality has nothing to do with strength. Of course they can be extremely strong but not necessarily has anything to do with immortality. Even Brook to some extent is counted as Immortal isn't it?

I didn't mention their immortality at all.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

And how do you reckon they will be defeated? Who will beat them?

A stronger Zoro than the one who beat Mihawk armed with ancient technology for example

 

[Monster Luffy]

Its not really that much of a big deal. Their immortality is either tied to something or has some kind of weakness. Sanji more than likely will beat a gorosei at Eos. Worm or marcus.

I don't know about that anymore. Oda changed his pattern in this arc. We thought only Saturn going to be headache of this arc but now all gorosei are present here. I am curious about how it end but if no information from Vegapunk got leaked, then this arc is just a colossal waste of time.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Maybe Law developing a reversal of the immortalty surgery reversing that, making them vulnerable again

It's this one. Law is a D and a natural enemy of celestial dragons and gorosei. That will be his role in the final war.

 

[MonsterKaido]

A stronger Zoro than the one who beat Mihawk armed with ancient technology for example

Zoro will beat one. What about others? Ancient tech headcanon lol

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Zoro will beat one. What about others? Ancient tech headcanon lol

They will lose to characters stronger than the Yonko armed with counter abilities. Might even take massive raids to take them down.

 

[Hanzo hattori]

The idea that one of the gorosei is losing to the likes of Sanji shows how "OP" they are

Anyway I am sure Saturn's poor performance ain't above yonko level

 

[Monster Luffy]

Looks like this regeneration is maybe the core point being a Zoan DF and gorosei was able to unlock regeneration due to their vast experience with their devil fruits and maybe there was even immortal surgery have been performed on them?