What Marines know about the Ancient Weapons?


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What evidence is there for this plateau’s existence?
Literally basic ass logic.

It's impossible to grow infinitely and the stronger the character, the less growth he can make.
Goofy even says this is his peak. He barely has anything else to learn.

Zoro and Sanji will never be on Luffy’s level. You’re just a straight up retard if you really believe that
Yea, bro.

Goofy will be the only top tier in the world. No one besides Goofy is allowed to be top tier.
Everyone in the last gen? They reached top tier through summoning dragon balls and wishing for it.
 
Well he cares on people he meet.
He fought Doffy because of Rebecca. king riku, law...
Not because of the civilians
It's just a cop-out line whenever Oda is inconsistent. He's clearly not like any classical pirate in the OP world, which is what people are implying when they say, "but he's just a pirate."

No one thinks Luffy would be fine with seeing random civilians suffer.
 
Literally basic ass logic.

It's impossible to grow infinitely and the stronger the character, the less growth he can make.
Goofy even says this is his peak. He barely has anything else to learn.


Yea, bro.

Goofy will be the only top tier in the world. No one besides Goofy is allowed to be top tier.
Everyone in the last gen? They reached top tier through summoning dragon balls and wishing for it.
Lol if you really believe Luffy won’t get any stronger.

Going by your logic, Saturn = Imu because “muh plateau”
 
I just find this stuff as nonsense when the manga has show for years that most pirates even the good ones don't really give fuck about the world at large most of the time and some how people think Ray differnt .
Roger having a good time was him fighting for his life and freedom vs people like Garp and WB .
Well for me it sounds like Oda wanted to mix so much good and bad that now its mehh.

Devil Fruits which are not so devilish.
Celestial Gods which are very raw human.
Pirates that we follow most are 'good'.
Marined are badly depicted mostly.

So all the good and the bad are too much mixed to create Oda story.

And then this Genius says 'it wont be a punch' and Luffy wins with a Big Punch.

Oda trolls, be ready for 4th wall break.
'GG Luffy you arrives at LaughtTale. Guess what ?
It's just a story. You part of a story that im writing and you are the Main character followed by a lot of people. You make tons of million people smile. And having fun"

Booooo, Burn that Manga for sure.
 
Ill wait for Kizaru to lethally wound a top tier before judging his supposed lethality, so far he didnt do shit. And please dont bring up Whitebeard, dude was getting wounded by fodder. His durability was garbage tier.
Truth is even wounding someone don't mean shit .
Kizaru wound Franky and Sanji and they get up doing fighting and what ever else they want .
If anything a top tier should be able to get wound and keep on moving like WB did without half a face lol .
 
Well for me it sounds like Oda wanted to mix so much good and bad that now its mehh.

Devil Fruits which are not so devilish.
Celestial Gods which are very raw human.
Pirates that we follow most are 'good'.
Marined are badly depicted mostly.

So all the good and the bad are too much mixed to create Oda story.

And then this Genius says 'it wont be a punch' and Luffy wins with a Big Punch.

Oda trolls, be ready for 4th wall break.
'GG Luffy you arrives at LaughtTale. Guess what ?
It's just a story. You part of a story that im writing and you are the Main character followed by a lot of people. You make tons of million people smile. And having fun"

Booooo, Burn that Manga for sure.
Truth is Oda always wanted the whole there good and bad side to each group and that just like real life.
So that was always going to happen .
 
He don't care about random people.
That is the revs job not luffy which is why Oda always give luffy a connection to islands he go on as a reason why he helping .
If luffy care about random people he would not do a prison break that free thousands of pirates that will fuck up people around the world.
Like you think luffy so stupid that he don't know croc going fuck over other random people .
It's just that Oda wants to play both sides. He wants to keep up the façade that Luffy has no intention of saving the world, and does so each arc by having him "coincidentally" save a country as collateral, usually because he meets one or two characters and they give him something mundane. Yet at the same time, Luffy is the "good guy" and cares about the suffering of others. The problem is, that can't be his primary focus because otherwise he wouldn't be going on the selfish journey he is, he'd be stuck helping countries around the world. (Due to his backstory, he'd probably even be in the navy at the moment, rather than a pirate.)

Just this arc, Sentomaru didn't give him anything (and in fact he has a bad history with him), yet when Lucci butchered him he got angry. For what reason is he helping Vegapunk exactly? Because he got food from the vending machine from one of the satellites?

I don't know whether you'd call it stupidity, but yes Luffy doesn't connect the dots in the bigger picture, because it's not in his nature to ponder those things. That doesn't equal him not caring about random people. Do you think if the birdcage slaughtered everyone in Dressrosa except the few characters he'd met, that he'd be equally content with the outcome? Nah.
 
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