Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1124 Spoilers Discussion

[Roo]

Egghead was, but we know that Law vs Blackbeard was before Luffy and the crew landed on Egghead as Van augur still needed to sail from winner island to Egghead after it ended.

actually we know the opposite, the events were happening concurrently

And BB has yet to arrive on Hachinosu(around the area)

The islands are within a day from each other(judging by the giant warrior pirates speed), if BB had a system of ships I could definitely see Van Augur making it to egghead the next day

Also Morgans will print the news of Law's defeat in todays news.

 

[ako]

Blackbeard and Imu are the only two villains who will have a clean 1 v 1 all out fight vs Luffy from here onwards.

 

[Kumathegoat]

Blackbeard and Imu are the only two villains who will have a clean 1 v 1 all out fight vs Luffy from here onwards.

I doubt it.

It will be the whole world against Blackbeard in the end

 

[OPKnK]

Once they find the fourth poneglyph they merely will get coordinates. Regular navigation is still impossible in the New World, which means they’ll need to figure out how to sail themselves to those exact coordinates which since they don’t have a north bird anymore, they’ll need to find a way to do it likely at Lodestar

nah it was already said they don't need to go to lodestar .
When they were talking to neko and inu.
Plus from what we know roger did not have to go back to lodestar after getting the 4 poneglyphs.
I am 100% certain that Oda won't have us go there and he find some way for them to get straight to the OP island .

 

[Roo]

SH's are members of Luffys crew, how is that hard to understand?
Admirals are a part of marines, and are included under Akainu.
Law and Kidd are leaders of their own crews, yet not included in the 12.

Yet you said they'll fight some holy knights, but Garling is there?

Your logic falls apart quick, think before typing

 

[Kumathegoat]

Luffy never won a clean 1 vs 1 fight

 

[Paperchampion23]

The SH not going to lodestar there is no need for them to do that .
As soon as they find the 4th poneglyph during this elbaf arc it's straight to the OP .
Elbaf is the last big island that Oda promise and after that we heading to the end .

You guys misunderstand the intent behind the RPs, reread the Oden flashback lol. Roger was stating that they could not go beyond Lodestar. At that point, the log poses go crazy.

You NEED to follow log poses to Lodestar. Its the place where all Logs merge and very likely the place where everyone fights over the 4 RP rubbings. You then NEED to use the 4 RPs to go to the sea beyond Lodestar.

On top of this, you are also assuming Elbaf will involve the 4th RP or Burned Scar Man. It might, but we do not know this. The sillhouette in this chapter does not suggest thats him.

 

[ako]

I doubt it.

It will be the whole world against Blackbeard in the end

That's possible but it's still Luffy who will take him down. If there is one 1 v 1 fight, that's set in stone it's Luffy vs Blackbeard. The whole story points to that battle.

 

[park_min young]

Kidd and Law aren't relevant anymore, hence why they weren't included in the 12.
They originally weren't even supposed to last this long. Oda isn't wasting any admiral on them, not even Greenbull who is disposable.

Law might as well be the deuteragonist in the post-ts, you have to be dumb to make an argument that he’ll stop being relevant lol.

Just because they’re not pre-planned doesn’t make them irrelevant. The entire supernova have been relevant in post-ts arguably more so than any other group of characters. Imu and Nika were not planned either and look where we are now.

 

[ivaannom]

@ivaannom

Zoro’s primary frustration is with Luffy allowing Vegapunk to die, not with him being sad about it

みっともねェな (mittomonē na) -> Zoro views the situation as "disgraceful", "shameful" or "embarrassing"
あの野郎 (ano yarō) -> Zoro calls Luffy "that bastard", yarō has a negative connotation, which further implies he is disappointed and frustrated with Luffy, this shame is tied to Luffy’s failure to act appropriately as a Yonko, rather than Luffy’s emotional response to the situation
死なせた (shinaseta) means "allowed to die" or "caused to die"

Zoro is angry because, as a Yonko, Luffy should have the power and responsibility to prevent such deaths, and failing to do so reflects poorly on him.

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Sure, let's forget the last word in that sentence "くれえで" = "くらいで" which is the most important.

To not give a long explanation here, Kurai is a word that mainly has 2 uses, 1 is to round. For example when you don't have a certain number for example, like: 20分くらいで着くよ "I'll arrive in 'around' 20 min"(you don't have the number but you know you'll arrive around that time). Or like "It weights 'around' 5 kg"(the same thing), etc. I think it's pretty simple.

Anyways this is not the case here. The other case is similar but at the same time it's difficult to explain why it's similar.

The other case it's to show that it's not that big of a deal. For example そのくらいで騒ぐな(don't make a fuss 'just' for something like that), this is one of the examples but it's basically the same one that Zoro is using.

Zoro says ジジイ一人死なせたくらいで（"'Just' because he let 1 old man die"）.

Also the first sentence, Zoro is talking about Luffy's attitude that Jinbee and Franky were talking about in the beginning of the conversation, yes, it's obviously negative but he isn't talking about Luffy's responsabilities or anything like that, he is talking negatively about him being depressed because of just 1 old man dying despite his position as an emperor.

Edit: Maybe saying that the word is used to show that 'it's not that big of a deal' is a bit wrong because i can think of cases where it's not exactly like that but the same. It's a bit difficult to explain.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

nah it was already said they don't need to go to lodestar .
When they were talking to neko and inu.
Plus from what we know roger did not have to go back to lodestar after getting the 4 poneglyphs.
I am 100% certain that Oda won't have us go there and he find some way for them to get straight to the OP island .

They don’t need to go there to discover the truth of the poneglyphs, but they still don’t have a way to get to Raftel even if they get the final poneglyph.

 

[Roo]

Law might as well be the deuteragonist in the post-ts, you have to be dumb to make an argument that he’ll stop being relevant lol.

Just because they’re not pre-planned doesn’t make them irrelevant. The entire supernova have been relevant in post-ts arguably more so than any other group of characters. Imu and Nika were not planned either and look where we are now.

Oda is not allowed to change his mind

 

[Sir Yasheen]

actually we know the opposite, the events were happening concurrently

And BB has yet to arrive on Hachinosu(around the area)

The islands are within a day from each other(judging by the giant warrior pirates speed), if BB had a system of ships I could definitely see Van Augur making it to egghead the next day

Also Morgans will print the news of Law's defeat in today’s news.

If it was concurrent this genuinely makes even less sense because we know that the BB Pirates showed up the first day of Egghead…

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Sengoku is the hardest CD worshipping Marine in the series.

Negative

 

[park_min young]

Oda is not allowed to change his mind

I’ll never understand those guys that are still thinking that Law is irrelevant just because of that Oda interview. Didn’t you guys read the last 600 chapters for a decade? 🤣

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sengoku is the hardest CD worshipping Marine in the series.

Sengoku doesn’t deserve to have CoC.

 

[OPKnK]

I think we all need to take a step back and understand that beyond Elbaf there may not be room at all for direct 1v1's anyway unless you are the final villain.

There is a war coming, it will very obviously involve most of the people here, thats where the Marines will probably be fought:

What people have to get over is the idea of clean 1v1 matchups. A lot of these people (at least their subordinates) may go down in big groups or huge scenes that dont necessarily involve the crew).

Essentially, dont be surprised that even if the Monster trio fight Admirals, Yonko/YCs, etc, many Zodiac VAs, God Knights, Gorosei, RHP Commanders, CG members, RA commanders, or BBP Captains go down by the crew or a combination of

- The crew beating someone
- Another enemy beating an enemy (i.e. Mihawk one shotting someone important; Blackbeard killing Shanks for you BB nutters, Dragon fighting Imu and losing, etc)
- A combination of things that happen between multiple people causing someone to lose (i.e. Shiryu being a dick and harming Fujitora before Zoro or Mihawk defeat them, just guessing)

Its going to complete chaos imo, and not as clean as people think or want. EVERYONE will probably salty in their own way when it happens lol

I mean i said long ago i think the only true one on one fight we have left is BB vs the SH
Now maybe be also Imu and elders vs the SH and the lower SH can share a elder .
I expect it to be chaos not really full 1 on 1 fight and anyone can fight anyone coming to end but BB pirates .
I mean the first big fight luffy get as a Yonko was 2 chapter vs kizaru and then taking on elder and kizaru a few panels.
I think a lot of other fight with other characters will be like that .

 

[Paperchampion23]

nah it was already said they don't need to go to lodestar .
When they were talking to neko and inu.
Plus from what we know roger did not have to go back to lodestar after getting the 4 poneglyphs.
I am 100% certain that Oda won't have us go there and he find some way for them to get straight to the OP island .

They dont need to go to Lodestar to find out about the RPs and stop their journey like Roger. Thats all Inuarashi was saying.

They still need to go to Lodestar because its the last island they can reach with a log pose. Laugh Tale is after it:

Circumnavigating the globe, by definition, means that they go around the world. Lodestar doesnt let them, but traveling to Laugh Tale does.

Which means Laugh Tale is after Lodestar

 

[yorosenpai]

- Who told you Zoro can't protect anyone when he literally cancelled Nusjuro for multiples chapters ?
- He can talk simply because no one died because of him here.
- Because Zoro didn't make any promise to VP.
- Because Zoro cares about Yonkou reputation. Imagine the others look at you as a Yonkou but you are such a crying baby.

Use your brain next time and just accept that Luffy failed like Zoro said "pathetically".

http://imgur.com/fapMUr7

By the way, keep your pathetic excuse around Zori, dude had to clean up the first big failure around Goofy....dude coudnt even properly finish Lucci to the point that Lucci was so disappointed in that bump, no damage no nerf nothing....Zori had to clean up first Goofy mess
Zori had to clean it multiple time, cuz without him the sunny would be a mere memory (cuz Luffy initially failed against Lucci)
Zori had to clean up Goofy mess around the seraphin cuz dude went into g4 and coudnt deal any damage

Zori had to clean again Goofy mess when Lucci turn on strawhat cuz bump let him free after stussy put both kaku,lucci to sleep

Zori had to clean up again Goofy mess when had to step him to protect sunny from venus cuz Luffy was laughing around with some giant

So who the fuck need that clown of a character?

 

[zzShinichi]

Zoro when there's an oldman or a minor infront of him