Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1129 Spoilers Discussion
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Sanji’s invisible speed is temporary and isn’t taking out queen right away. By the time Sanji used ifrit queen was already really feeling all the damage he culminated throughout the war
Same way luffy or zoro aren’t low diffing kaido and king off the bat even if they start the fight with their strongest attacks
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If you genuinely believe shit like king low diffs queen or Marco low diffs jozu or Lucci kaku etc there’s nothing I can say to you
Same way luffy or zoro aren’t low diffing kaido and king off the bat even if they start the fight with their strongest attacks
The manga
If you genuinely believe shit like king low diffs queen or Marco low diffs jozu or Lucci kaku etc there’s nothing I can say to you
Lol "Shanks is violent as kaido" who told you this is how you become WSP or WSC or WSM?
WB wasn't violent and yet he was WSP and WSM
Btw Shanks crew are violent, they destroy ships and people who attacked them even after they beg for mercy
Shanks was always the weakest og yonko
Just like current Teach is the weakest Yonko post TS
Newly yonko are always the weakest
Shanks and Sickbeard were introduced first for a reason , they are the weakest
Just like any weakest member is introduced first then the strongest last
WB wasn't violent and yet he was WSP and WSM
Btw Shanks crew are violent, they destroy ships and people who attacked them even after they beg for mercy
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Shanks was always the weakest og yonko
Just like current Teach is the weakest Yonko post TS
Newly yonko are always the weakest
Shanks and Sickbeard were introduced first for a reason , they are the weakest
Just like any weakest member is introduced first then the strongest last
his speed increases in ifrit ,
so every attack from ifrit sanji will be capable of blitzing queen
his damage culminated throughout the war has nothing to do with this matchup as sanji can just hit more combos
i have alrdy said this
why not ? king was low diffing RT zoro
what stops him from wiping the floor with queen ?
and other commanders got nothing to do with king vs queen
so every attack from ifrit sanji will be capable of blitzing queen
i have alrdy said this
why not ? king was low diffing RT zoro
what stops him from wiping the floor with queen ?
and other commanders got nothing to do with king vs queen
Yo Elbaf base Luffy is in another stratosphere. G2/G3 stack such as Roc and partial G4 were always considered the game changers for Luffy. Would have honestly been even powerful enough to have it as his awakening.
Perhaps those partial Boundman attacks are now handled like G3 always was, as too slow basically, and Roc is his actual go to?
He looks stacked either way. That gives him the ability to fly with an additional soru/geppo speedblitz option and he can casually pull out OKGs and King Kobras or Black Mambas without any repercussions. He should easily be a high top tier in base now. We also haven't seen his by far strongest Roc attacks yet, i.e. Red Roc with CoC and a Roc bazooka. Dayum
Perhaps Oda went this route, because of the yami no mi and that form neutralizing CoC haki ability Shanks and Joyboy showed?
Perhaps those partial Boundman attacks are now handled like G3 always was, as too slow basically, and Roc is his actual go to?
He looks stacked either way. That gives him the ability to fly with an additional soru/geppo speedblitz option and he can casually pull out OKGs and King Kobras or Black Mambas without any repercussions. He should easily be a high top tier in base now. We also haven't seen his by far strongest Roc attacks yet, i.e. Red Roc with CoC and a Roc bazooka. Dayum
Perhaps Oda went this route, because of the yami no mi and that form neutralizing CoC haki ability Shanks and Joyboy showed?
Yes oden was the first man to scar kaido that doesn’t make him stronger
Also the “loden” is corny man
Violence has nothing to do with strength. Also it’s not like shanks isn’t willing to pull up on anyone that messes with his territory. He’ll he’s more often at sea than kaido who stays in wano a lot of the time
It really doesn’t at all. He had the potential to be stronger than them but that doesn’t reflect his current self
It 100% does. A basic ifrit kick was having Queen struggling to get up because of all the damage he took throughout. Queen being the same guy that could take big attacks from o-Lin and Marco and walk them off a second later. A healthy queen isn’t getting done dirty like that and is going to do a lot better at fighting him off when focused. Cause while his named attacks are strong it’s not like you can’t clash with ifrit
Zoro with enma against kaido =\= zoro with enma at the start of the king fight
It’s ignorant to act like king/queen are any different than Marco/jozu Lucci/kaku etc. they very obviously aren’t
Also the “loden” is corny man
Violence has nothing to do with strength. Also it’s not like shanks isn’t willing to pull up on anyone that messes with his territory. He’ll he’s more often at sea than kaido who stays in wano a lot of the time
It really doesn’t at all. He had the potential to be stronger than them but that doesn’t reflect his current self
his speed increases in ifrit ,
so every attack from ifrit sanji will be capable of blitzing queen
his damage culminated throughout the war has nothing to do with this matchup as sanji can just hit more combos
i have alrdy said this a single basic ifrit kick
why not ? king was low diffing RT zoro
what stops him from wiping the floor with queen ?
and other commanders got nothing to do with king vs queen
so every attack from ifrit sanji will be capable of blitzing queen
i have alrdy said this a single basic ifrit kick
why not ? king was low diffing RT zoro
what stops him from wiping the floor with queen ?
and other commanders got nothing to do with king vs queen
Zoro with enma against kaido =\= zoro with enma at the start of the king fight
It’s ignorant to act like king/queen are any different than Marco/jozu Lucci/kaku etc. they very obviously aren’t
How so?
King can spam magma dragons at him and hack into his dino ass with CoA hardened sword swings supported by colossal physical strength. He also got stuff like Jackpot, his hybrid form moves and Tempuraudon. Queen's dead meat in front of him the way I see it.
And Marco has a whole shockwave based moveset. You basically cannot block shockwaves, cause even when blocked they still do damage and Marco has his regen + great mobility to just go for a mid distance spam routine.
And Jozu just standing, even with his herculian strength, might have trouble blocking speedblitz Marco flying into him. Plus Marco also got blue bird. Jozu shouldn't be safe from recoil damage, that he prolly would suffer from in both situations, means if Marco speedblitz kicks him or blue bird sends him flying, he still gets fucked up to some degree.
Marco easily beats Jozu tbh and most other high tiers for that matter. A lot of feats just feel a little underwhelming, when performed against the likes of transformed Queen, King, Big Mom and Kaido imo.
King can spam magma dragons at him and hack into his dino ass with CoA hardened sword swings supported by colossal physical strength. He also got stuff like Jackpot, his hybrid form moves and Tempuraudon. Queen's dead meat in front of him the way I see it.
And Marco has a whole shockwave based moveset. You basically cannot block shockwaves, cause even when blocked they still do damage and Marco has his regen + great mobility to just go for a mid distance spam routine.
And Jozu just standing, even with his herculian strength, might have trouble blocking speedblitz Marco flying into him. Plus Marco also got blue bird. Jozu shouldn't be safe from recoil damage, that he prolly would suffer from in both situations, means if Marco speedblitz kicks him or blue bird sends him flying, he still gets fucked up to some degree.
Marco easily beats Jozu tbh and most other high tiers for that matter. A lot of feats just feel a little underwhelming, when performed against the likes of transformed Queen, King, Big Mom and Kaido imo.
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