Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1129 Spoilers Discussion

[Sir Yasheen]

No it doesn’t because he was still doing damage lol
Marco flew to onigashima from sphinx, clashed with big mom, used his fire on the whole main floor, and then fought king and queen

Marco being able to hurt queen is a weird agenda?

Nah trying to say King and Queen were nerfed going into their fights with Zoro and Sanji is lmao

Marco wasn’t able to do any damage to King and Queen 2v1 the other would heal and rest while Marco attacked the other. They were still at 100% after the Marco fight.

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If your first point is right that seems a drawback only for that fight tho if we look at other instances after

In Egghead he didn't show any drawbacks und in Legoland he can even spam it back to back without any sign of stamina cost

He said Queen was struggling, not Sanji.

 

[ThunderSupernova]

Lmaooooo

Base Zoro (no KoH, no Adv CoC, no Asura) = Ifrit Jambe Sanji
Completely confirmed as of now

Meaning all-out Zoro >>> all-out Sanji
(which everyone bar Sanji fans already knew)

 

[zenox]

If your first point is right that seems a drawback only for that fight tho if we look at other instances after

In Egghead he didn't show any drawbacks und in Legoland he can even spam it back to back without any sign of stamina cost

honestly , the only drawback i think sanji has is when he spams high speed which makes him go invisible for a long time

while in ifrit , he can do small bursts of speed which wont tax him like that

 

[Artem]

Robin became able to casually use gigante fleur like nothing

Sanji using ifrit as easily as diable jambe

Luffy able to use g4 in base

Base zoro even weaker than he was in onigashima or fishman island for some reason

Animal. The g4+hybrid Lucci escaped from the mini king. Zoro destroyed a pureblood lunarian without top attacks, lol.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Lmaooooo

Base Zoro (no KoH, no Adv CoC, no Asura) = Ifrit Jambe Sanji
Completely confirmed as of now

Meaning all-out Zoro >>> all-out Sanji
(which everyone bar Sanji fans already knew)

No wonder spoils have been so late in the last two chapters lol

 

[Albino 👑]

Nah trying to say King and Queen were nerfed going into their fights with Zoro and Sanji is lmao

Marco wasn’t able to do any damage to King and Queen 2v1 the other would heal and rest while Marco attacked the other. They were still at 100% after the Marco fight.

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He said Queen was struggling, not Sanji.

You can argue that for king because his lunarian hax despite bleeding but no Queen doesn’t get that at all lol


Marco is capable and was shown capable of hurting queen. Him not being able to beat 1 or both of them at the same time after everything else he did isn’t an L
Wasting energy to recover still means you’re wasting energy lol

 

[zenox]

He said Queen was struggling, not Sanji.

yeah that dialogue was aimed towards queen @kekaro
ifrit destroyed queen

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You can argue that for king because his lunarian hax despite bleeding but no Queen doesn’t get that at all lol


Marco is capable and was shown capable of hurting queen. Him not being able to beat 1 or both of them at the same time after everything else he did isn’t an L
Wasting energy to recover still means you’re wasting energy lol

Both got it, any damage Marco did was fully healed and the stamina was recovered.

Didn’t say it was an L you’re just weirdly trying to push that Oda was directly lying because you don’t like that queen just didn’t get damaged until hells memories

 

[kekaro]

honestly , the only drawback i think sanji has is when he spams high speed which makes him go invisible for a long time

while in ifrit , he can do small bursts of speed which wont tax him like that

I didn't mean your take is wrong.
My honest opinion in such things is just Oda doesn't give a fuck ans draws how he feels funny

If I would try to "explain" it is that his haki/endurance got better. He said in wano his flames at hotter temperature damages himself (hence why he can go hotter with exo). Now he can use it without exo meaning he is just in base more durable than in wano.

if we take it seriously/try to explain

 

[Peroroncino]

Lmaooooo

Base Zoro (no KoH, no Adv CoC, no Asura) = Ifrit Jambe Sanji
Completely confirmed as of now

Meaning all-out Zoro >>> all-out Sanji
(which everyone bar Sanji fans already knew)

i do remember some sanji fans saying ''if zoro koh on the net it's over'' here

 

[Sentinel]

They were fighting for chapters, multiple multiple chapters.
It was very clear they both hit each other numerous times lmao.

You fuckers on here have the actual reading comprehension of 8 year olds lmao. Actual retards in adult bodies.

Tell me if you're done yapping.

 

[Albino 👑]

Both got it, any damage Marco did was fully healed and the stamina was recovered.

Didn’t say it was an L you’re just weirdly trying to push that Oda was directly lying because you don’t like that queen just didn’t get damaged until hells memories

Queen isn’t a lunarian lol

We saw Marco hurt queen. Pretending he didn’t and that it’s somehow makes no sense makes no fuckin sense lol

Hell sanji now is arguably weaker than Marco but somehow sanji pre ifrit hits way harder than Marco because you said so

 

[kekaro]

Nah trying to say King and Queen were nerfed going into their fights with Zoro and Sanji is lmao

Marco wasn’t able to do any d

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He said Queen was struggling, not Sanji.

I got that just saying that if we follow his argumentation at around the middle of the fight Queen had no option to damage Sanji, meaning he fell from exhaustion at the end, not damage dealt to him

Which really is not consistent

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Queen isn’t a lunarian lol

We saw Marco hurt queen. Pretending he didn’t and that it’s somehow makes no sense makes no fuckin sense lol

Hell sanji now is arguably weaker than Marco but somehow sanji pre ifrit hits way harder than Marco because you said so

Marco still made King bleed how come him regenerating doesnt cause stamina?

Like your entire argument is just so wrong lmao and yeah of course IJ >> Marcos AP it’s literally canon and no Marco isn’t stronger than Sanji lmao

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Marco still made King bleed how come him regenerating doesnt cause stamina?

Like your entire argument is just so wrong lmao and yeah of course IJ >> Marcos AP it’s literally canon and no Marco isn’t stronger than Sanji lmao

Marco 1000% is stronger than sanji lmao

 

[kekaro]

Bro imagine we are not in elbaf next week

 

[JoNdule]

How so?
King can spam magma dragons at him and hack into his dino ass with CoA hardened sword swings supported by colossal physical strength. He also got stuff like Jackpot, his hybrid form moves and Tempuraudon. Queen's dead meat in front of him the way I see it.

And Marco has a whole shockwave based moveset. You basically cannot block shockwaves, cause even when blocked they still do damage and Marco has his regen + great mobility to just go for a mid distance spam routine.
And Jozu just standing, even with his herculian strength, might have trouble blocking speedblitz Marco flying into him. Plus Marco also got blue bird. Jozu shouldn't be safe from recoil damage, that he prolly would suffer from in both situations, means if Marco speedblitz kicks him or blue bird sends him flying, he still gets fucked up to some degree.
Marco easily beats Jozu tbh and most other high tiers for that matter. A lot of feats just feel a little underwhelming, when performed against the likes of transformed Queen, King, Big Mom and Kaido imo.

King can spam those moves which won't KO Queen
Queen can blitz King if he goes invisible or uses lightning.
Btw Queen can bypass King dura with his lasers which he can spam too
Basically both can hurt each other and both can stalemate each other.

Marco doing nothing to Jozu with his weak AP and haki. There's literally nothing much he can do bar damage Jozu a little bit
We saw how Queen and King were not even that much damaged afyer his attacks

Whenever Oda pairs a duo, the winner will need a distraction or some miracle to win in the end

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Bro imagine we are not in elbaf next week

Rambles:

 

[JoNdule]

He had other shit...

The strongest paramecia that could "end the world" and also was a rival of the PK...

Kaido doesn;t have any of that.


Do you think they hold contests to determine the titles or something?

It's all from the perception of the people.

So of course the more violent and active one will get the title in the people's eye. That's why kaido's best portrayal is "people say in a 1 v 1"


That's the main point. They don't go out and instigate shit unlike kaido and his crew are implied to do.


Roger was the first introduced character you clown.

And mohawk the first introduced Warlord.

Just because you have a thing for big meme doesn't mean you need to invent shit to put her on top.

Meme has been shown to be the weakest og yonko. Even below sick beard.

Shanks has been consistently portrayed to be above kaido.

Now your arguments "wb has other shits"
Please be for real,

Shanks will never be the strongest Yonko.
He wasn't and will never be
Even right now nobody crowns him as WSP in the OP verse for a reason cause Luffy and Teach are there

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Queen isn’t a lunarian lol

We saw Marco hurt queen. Pretending he didn’t and that it’s somehow makes no sense makes no fuckin sense lol

Hell sanji now is arguably weaker than Marco but somehow sanji pre ifrit hits way harder than Marco because you said so

Both Marco and Pre IJ Sanji have comparable AP, in fact Sanji has better by a margin

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Enma was making him release the amount of haki

Wait you think Enma is what is giving his other swords the Haki smoke effects?

since when is that a power Enma has?

Zoro has a flashback where he learns that to use Enma properly he has to give it as much haki as it wants… HE HIMSELF has to give it as much haki as it wants

but the problem is that Zoro cannot fight properly when his swords are not balanced as show in thriller bark when Shusui was overtaking his other swords

So Zoro can only use the 3 sword style if he’s giving ALL HIS SWORDS, as much Haki has he is giving Enma… Zoro is the one giving all hide swords all this haki

we know this because on the rooftop when Enma was the only one sucking up too much haki, we don’t see the haki effects on all the swords, you only ever see it on only Enma

Enma doesn’t have the power to give other swords haki