Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1130 Spoilers Discussion
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Yeah, I would not scream at him being Roger level, but:
- a presence so strong that Luffy felt It as he said;
- ata a legendary Devil fruit;
- killed the previous king;
- all Erbaf, who was hyped by BM and many others, Is needed to keep him in check and they are afraid he could maybe free himself as the chains cannot resist any longer;
- Great design, not some joke character.
It seems to me there all the hints one can ask for.
Oden has way less hype the first time he was introduced. Way less.
- a presence so strong that Luffy felt It as he said;
- ata a legendary Devil fruit;
- killed the previous king;
- all Erbaf, who was hyped by BM and many others, Is needed to keep him in check and they are afraid he could maybe free himself as the chains cannot resist any longer;
- Great design, not some joke character.
It seems to me there all the hints one can ask for.
Oden has way less hype the first time he was introduced. Way less.
Lola is right to refuse that guy.
Haki can get stronger, physical states can get stronger.
Luffy jumped from a low top tier to be able to defeat Kaido.
Of course G5 wont be looking stronger than Kaido when Luffy used it FOR THE FIRST-TIME.
That is not how it works.
Kaido is a fighter with great experince, great mastery of his df and haki moveset.
It would be bad if he was overwhelmed by G5 Luffy.
Like how Luffy learned FS but still Katakuri had a little better one.
It wont change the fact that both Kaido and Luffy got hyped equal when they both fought each other:
You saw how Luffy jumped tiers in just mera hours.
That wano Luffy, since Wano months pass, Luffy fought also strong opponents(Kizaru and Gorosei).
Means he got even stronger and the fact that he has now full control of G4 even in base show how much he improved and got stronger.
Means not just his G4 improved, but also his haki is now stronger and his G5 control is far greater.
Would be G4 enough to defeat Kaido?
Be honest nope, but I can see Luffy without G5 can legit push Kaido to high diff.
And now add G5, he wins.
He already did it.
He surpassed Kaido strongest attack and defeated him.
Wano Luffy did this...
Yes Kaido had a long ass battles with multiple characters, because that I place Kaido above wano Luffy.
But current Luffy is different, he can make Kaido enough exhaust to a point where he can finish him off with G5.
And we saw G5 was strong enough to tank Kaido strongest moves.
He couldn´t knock out Luffy and that is my point, Luffy could simple fight with G5 enough.
Ragnaroku wasn´t the reason why Luffy almost lost G5 transformation, it was because G5 drained lot of energy mate:
You see, it was just Luffy G5 was running out because it drained much energy, not because Kaido knocked him out.
We don´t even know what for weakess or durability Loki will have.
But fact is that he will face A STRONGER Luffy...
A Luffy who can now use better haki, better his Gears and awakening..
Challenging such a strong opponent would be already a good feat.
And Kaido in fact never knocked out Luffy in G5, if Loki can do it, it proves that Loki pose AP who are above Kaido one.
Hell he might even show a hakai feat who can surpass the one of Kaido&Big Mom together one!!
Oda is hyping the shit of Loki.
We need to sit down and just watch how strong this guy will be.
But you can agree, the hype this guy has, it means he will show some crazy feats.
And unlike Kizaru and the Gorosei who couldn´t fight all out because of plot(they will once they fight in the end war), Loki is free to show his true power from the beginning.
Loki will be one lvl above Oden, same Oden who give Kaido a good fight.
Im pretty sure if Kaido tried to do what he did in wano with the samurai, in Elbaf, he would be dead now.
Luffy jumped from a low top tier to be able to defeat Kaido.
Of course G5 wont be looking stronger than Kaido when Luffy used it FOR THE FIRST-TIME.
That is not how it works.
Kaido is a fighter with great experince, great mastery of his df and haki moveset.
It would be bad if he was overwhelmed by G5 Luffy.
Like how Luffy learned FS but still Katakuri had a little better one.
It wont change the fact that both Kaido and Luffy got hyped equal when they both fought each other:
You saw how Luffy jumped tiers in just mera hours.
That wano Luffy, since Wano months pass, Luffy fought also strong opponents(Kizaru and Gorosei).
Means he got even stronger and the fact that he has now full control of G4 even in base show how much he improved and got stronger.
Means not just his G4 improved, but also his haki is now stronger and his G5 control is far greater.
Would be G4 enough to defeat Kaido?
Be honest nope, but I can see Luffy without G5 can legit push Kaido to high diff.
And now add G5, he wins.
He already did it.
He surpassed Kaido strongest attack and defeated him.
Wano Luffy did this...
Yes Kaido had a long ass battles with multiple characters, because that I place Kaido above wano Luffy.
But current Luffy is different, he can make Kaido enough exhaust to a point where he can finish him off with G5.
And we saw G5 was strong enough to tank Kaido strongest moves.
He couldn´t knock out Luffy and that is my point, Luffy could simple fight with G5 enough.
Ragnaroku wasn´t the reason why Luffy almost lost G5 transformation, it was because G5 drained lot of energy mate:
We don´t even know what for weakess or durability Loki will have.
But fact is that he will face A STRONGER Luffy...
A Luffy who can now use better haki, better his Gears and awakening..
Challenging such a strong opponent would be already a good feat.
And Kaido in fact never knocked out Luffy in G5, if Loki can do it, it proves that Loki pose AP who are above Kaido one.
Hell he might even show a hakai feat who can surpass the one of Kaido&Big Mom together one!!
Oda is hyping the shit of Loki.
We need to sit down and just watch how strong this guy will be.
But you can agree, the hype this guy has, it means he will show some crazy feats.
And unlike Kizaru and the Gorosei who couldn´t fight all out because of plot(they will once they fight in the end war), Loki is free to show his true power from the beginning.
Loki will be one lvl above Oden, same Oden who give Kaido a good fight.
Im pretty sure if Kaido tried to do what he did in wano with the samurai, in Elbaf, he would be dead now.
It's always possible that he might not be "that" much, but the strongest warrior of a proud warrior race, with Elbaf being the strongest country in the world? With every giant in the island needed to restrain him and even then barely? And possessing a legendary DF.
Yeah this dude is a beast lmfao. I've always liked the concept of there being other super powerful characters that aren't true pirates/Admirals. Fujitora and Greenbull for example were monsters which Akainu was able to recruit who knows from were.
Yeah this dude is a beast lmfao. I've always liked the concept of there being other super powerful characters that aren't true pirates/Admirals. Fujitora and Greenbull for example were monsters which Akainu was able to recruit who knows from were.
Does Kiku have advanced Haki? Do the giants in Elbaf possess internal destruction?
Kaidou is injured by Okiku and 9 monstrous samurai, but unlike LOKI, who gets captured, beaten, and chained up, Kaidou is the one who destroys.
Kaidou is injured by Okiku and 9 monstrous samurai, but unlike LOKI, who gets captured, beaten, and chained up, Kaidou is the one who destroys.
Haki can get stronger, physical states can get stronger.
Luffy jumped from a low top tier to be able to defeat Kaido.
Of course G5 wont be looking stronger than Kaido when Luffy used it FOR THE FIRST-TIME.
That is not how it works.
Kaido is a fighter with great experince, great mastery of his df and haki moveset.
It would be bad if he was overwhelmed by G5 Luffy.
Like how Luffy learned FS but still Katakuri had a little better one.
It wont change the fact that both Kaido and Luffy got hyped equal when they both fought each other:
You saw how Luffy jumped tiers in just mera hours.
That wano Luffy, since Wano months pass, Luffy fought also strong opponents(Kizaru and Gorosei).
Means he got even stronger and the fact that he has now full control of G4 even in base show how much he improved and got stronger.
Means not just his G4 improved, but also his haki is now stronger and his G5 control is far greater.
Would be G4 enough to defeat Kaido?
Be honest nope, but I can see Luffy without G5 can legit push Kaido to high diff.
And now add G5, he wins.
He already did it.
He surpassed Kaido strongest attack and defeated him.
Wano Luffy did this...
Yes Kaido had a long ass battles with multiple characters, because that I place Kaido above wano Luffy.
But current Luffy is different, he can make Kaido enough exhaust to a point where he can finish him off with G5.
And we saw G5 was strong enough to tank Kaido strongest moves.
He couldn´t knock out Luffy and that is my point, Luffy could simple fight with G5 enough.
Ragnaroku wasn´t the reason why Luffy almost lost G5 transformation, it was because G5 drained lot of energy mate:
You see, it was just Luffy G5 was running out because it drained much energy, not because Kaido knocked him out.
We don´t even know what for weakess or durability Loki will have.
But fact is that he will face A STRONGER Luffy...
A Luffy who can now use better haki, better his Gears and awakening..
Challenging such a strong opponent would be already a good feat.
And Kaido in fact never knocked out Luffy in G5, if Loki can do it, it proves that Loki pose AP who are above Kaido one.
Hell he might even show a hakai feat who can surpass the one of Kaido&Big Mom together one!!
Oda is hyping the shit of Loki.
We need to sit down and just watch how strong this guy will be.
But you can agree, the hype this guy has, it means he will show some crazy feats.
And unlike Kizaru and the Gorosei who couldn´t fight all out because of plot(they will once they fight in the end war), Loki is free to show his true power from the beginning.
Loki will be one lvl above Oden, same Oden who give Kaido a good fight.
Im pretty sure if Kaido tried to do what he did in wano with the samurai, in Elbaf, he would be dead now.
Luffy jumped from a low top tier to be able to defeat Kaido.
Of course G5 wont be looking stronger than Kaido when Luffy used it FOR THE FIRST-TIME.
That is not how it works.
Kaido is a fighter with great experince, great mastery of his df and haki moveset.
It would be bad if he was overwhelmed by G5 Luffy.
Like how Luffy learned FS but still Katakuri had a little better one.
It wont change the fact that both Kaido and Luffy got hyped equal when they both fought each other:
You saw how Luffy jumped tiers in just mera hours.
That wano Luffy, since Wano months pass, Luffy fought also strong opponents(Kizaru and Gorosei).
Means he got even stronger and the fact that he has now full control of G4 even in base show how much he improved and got stronger.
Means not just his G4 improved, but also his haki is now stronger and his G5 control is far greater.
Would be G4 enough to defeat Kaido?
Be honest nope, but I can see Luffy without G5 can legit push Kaido to high diff.
And now add G5, he wins.
He already did it.
He surpassed Kaido strongest attack and defeated him.
Wano Luffy did this...
Yes Kaido had a long ass battles with multiple characters, because that I place Kaido above wano Luffy.
But current Luffy is different, he can make Kaido enough exhaust to a point where he can finish him off with G5.
And we saw G5 was strong enough to tank Kaido strongest moves.
He couldn´t knock out Luffy and that is my point, Luffy could simple fight with G5 enough.
Ragnaroku wasn´t the reason why Luffy almost lost G5 transformation, it was because G5 drained lot of energy mate:
We don´t even know what for weakess or durability Loki will have.
But fact is that he will face A STRONGER Luffy...
A Luffy who can now use better haki, better his Gears and awakening..
Challenging such a strong opponent would be already a good feat.
And Kaido in fact never knocked out Luffy in G5, if Loki can do it, it proves that Loki pose AP who are above Kaido one.
Hell he might even show a hakai feat who can surpass the one of Kaido&Big Mom together one!!
Oda is hyping the shit of Loki.
We need to sit down and just watch how strong this guy will be.
But you can agree, the hype this guy has, it means he will show some crazy feats.
And unlike Kizaru and the Gorosei who couldn´t fight all out because of plot(they will once they fight in the end war), Loki is free to show his true power from the beginning.
Loki will be one lvl above Oden, same Oden who give Kaido a good fight.
Im pretty sure if Kaido tried to do what he did in wano with the samurai, in Elbaf, he would be dead now.
Elbaf isn't beating kaido or BM or WB
They never said he lost, we don´t know how they caught him up and with one.
The fact that they need the entire Elbaf nation to stop him means, they didn´t do it before with some giants, they probably used tricks or help from Shanks to do it.
Loki has no wounds/injuries, he has just bandages on his eyes.
But his body is clear from any wound.
Means they didn´t defeat him in a normal way.
With make sense if they need entire Elbaf to beat him...
The fact that they need the entire Elbaf nation to stop him means, they didn´t do it before with some giants, they probably used tricks or help from Shanks to do it.
Loki has no wounds/injuries, he has just bandages on his eyes.
But his body is clear from any wound.
Means they didn´t defeat him in a normal way.
With make sense if they need entire Elbaf to beat him...
BRUH Broggy and Dorry would squish the nine Samurai like mosquito lmfao. These guys overpowered Warcury and withstood his CoC, wtf is Kaido going to do? Kaido would probably die to Warcury’s CoC lmfao.
End of discussion lmfao. Kaido got bodied horribly by nine scrub ass Samurai. Loki was ganged up on by an entire nation of giants. Big Mom said these giants would crush Kaido and the far superior Whitebeard.
End of discussion lmfao. Kaido got bodied horribly by nine scrub ass Samurai. Loki was ganged up on by an entire nation of giants. Big Mom said these giants would crush Kaido and the far superior Whitebeard.
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