Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1134 Spoilers Discussion

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its more the fact that I dislike how Oda purposefully witholds "mysterious" information without logically addressing it. A big one is Luffy's fruit magically being the best Zoan of an ancient god. The Gorosei were never concerned about it before Wano, then all of a sudden they were.

Its the same with "Pranks". Chapter 907 reveals a literal doppelganger with the Gorosei, and yet Shanks or anyone has zero opinions on it at all yet. But watch, if this person is a completely different person, we'll get lore drops from people like Garp or Mihawk or Sengoku or Shanks immediately knowing this person existed and just never mentioning it in 1200 chapters. I just dont like how Oda lays up twists sometimes.


- Shanks doing something shocking like visiting the Gorosei because he's a secret CD. A good twist because we know nothing about Shanks' life

- Shanks having a twin like Sanji has quadruplet brothers....not a good twist since 907 comes out of nowhere about it with zero indication a twin existed. Like sanji's brothers dont even look exactly like him. They are genetically engineered and have different hair and features. This bro allegedly also has Red Hair, facial hair, etc with no genetic tampering? (Again not a clone because Vegapunk invented cloning after Shanks was born with Weevil and only was successful with Stussy)
- Luffys Zoan. I think that’ll be explained this arc remember, Harald and Loki believed their fruit was the Nika fruit. And that belief probably was passed on to the world government which is why Luffy could hide completely in plain sight until the WG saw his Gear 4 in WCI. Plus Oda was hinting Luffys fruit since Dressrosa. Still I agree a dumb retcon but it did get some build up.

- The holy knights as a group are mostly unknown throughout the verse. With even the gorosei being rarely seen on earth. And since they all travel via teleportation not hard to see why since they can just pop in and out with little fuss.

- We did get a hint about it in Marineford when Shanks was seemingly in two places simultaneously. Marineford and Wano.
 
Idk why you guys are so obsessed wiht Loki being a fraud when Oda is keeping him chained in seastone to restraint his PL, it's weird as fuck honestly
Not a fraud, but not a villain. Plus since Luffy is already friends with a prince of Elbaf it’s no wonder why people assume Hajrudins going to end up as King.
 

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its more the fact that I dislike how Oda purposefully witholds "mysterious" information without logically addressing it. A big one is Luffy's fruit magically being the best Zoan of an ancient god. The Gorosei were never concerned about it before Wano, then all of a sudden they were.

Its the same with "Pranks". Chapter 907 reveals a literal doppelganger with the Gorosei, and yet Shanks or anyone has zero opinions on it at all yet. But watch, if this person is a completely different person, we'll get lore drops from people like Garp or Mihawk or Sengoku or Shanks immediately knowing this person existed and just never mentioning it in 1200 chapters. I just dont like how Oda lays up twists sometimes.


- Shanks doing something shocking like visiting the Gorosei because he's a secret CD. A good twist because we know nothing about Shanks' life

- Shanks having a twin like Sanji has quadruplet brothers....not a good twist since 907 comes out of nowhere about it with zero indication a twin existed. Like sanji's brothers dont even look exactly like him. They are genetically engineered and have different hair and features. This bro allegedly also has Red Hair, facial hair, etc with no genetic tampering? (Again not a clone because Vegapunk invented cloning after Shanks was born with Weevil and only was successful with Stussy)
you just want some thought provoking twists from a battle shounen but lets be honest with ourselves one piece has always been very simple
 
We just saw Shanks one shot a 3 Billion Berry pirate.
I wouldn’t be shocked if odas shanks love is going to spread to Shanks brother hype tooling a 2.6 Billion Berry pirate himself.

Not many other people on the island would work well as hype tools for someone like this.
I think Loki is at least somewhat aware of Shanks’ general capabilities and haki, he won’t get blasted like Kidd. And Pranks is most likely still weaker than real Shanks.

Loki’s hype is still intact, there’s no reason for me to doubt it so far.
 
How in what sense? Literally all of them were subrodinates of someone.
Luffy was never a subordinate but that is of course he start his own crew really young .
Still i won't call being a subordinate bending the knee cause that would just make things to simple and it never that simple.
That would be saying all marines been the knee to Akainu and we know that will never be case for some characters .
 
- We did get a hint about it in Marineford when Shanks was seemingly in two places simultaneously. Marineford and Wano.
This is my exact issue with it. Thats barely a hint and can also be explained by Shanks being this person as well if he can literally be summoned/teleported as a God Knight. We see how Saturn did it with the other Gorosei.

I just dont like twin shit in stories lol. Also, Kaido references the people who stand up to him in Chapter 1001, Shanks has a scar here:


So for it to not have been Shanks already, to me, breaks the logic of this scene if Kaido never actually fought Shanks. Also, didnt Oda confirm Shanks did in fact fight Kaido in an SBS with King only? I thought this was mentioned by someone officially.
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you just want some thought provoking twists from a battle shounen but lets be honest with ourselves one piece has always been very simple
Im not disagreeing with that, I just fucking hate twin shit:lusalty:
 
I think Loki is at least somewhat aware of Shanks’ general capabilities and haki, he won’t get blasted like Kidd. And Pranks is most likely still weaker than real Shanks.

Loki’s hype is still intact, there’s no reason for me to doubt it so far.
His hype being in tact is kinda the point. A hype tool is only useful if they themselves are hyped. For example no one would care if pranks beat Hajrudin or like Gerd.

So his choices are limited:
Come guy - Could be very cool and hype
Loki - Would be hype and with Lokis vendetta against shanks makes sense why he’d attack pranks
Dory and Brogy together - Would be huge hype but I have a hard time seeing Oda using a 2v1 in a hype up match
 
Luffy was never a subordinate but that is of course he start his own crew really young .
Still i won't call being a subordinate bending the knee cause that would just make things to simple and it never that simple.
That would be saying all marines been the knee to Akainu and we know that will never be case for some characters .
I meant Emperors Who are not the MC. The one established.
Anyway, I agree.
 
Thinking about it if kuina really is related to nusjuro she really could have been made into a holy knight if the wg found out. Zoro only being saved because they probably didn’t realize his ties to ryuma because of his last name


The true strongest swordsman
Gods/heaven’s strongest swordsman
Wuina!!!!
:steef::steef::steef::steef::steef:

Kuina made it into heaven as a holy knight
She'll be zoro's final fight post mihawk with zoro finale getting a win
:endthis:
This guy was spitting

Zoro vs black knight tied to his shimotsuki/kuina plot
Sanji vs white knight tied to his vinsmoke/sora plot
It’s peak
:kata:
 
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