Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

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Kaido with his physicals needed future sight to counter Snakeman, aka Katakuri level of combat speed
Yet somehow people assume Zoro can counter that? Lmao
What people need to have in mind.
Kaido is not someone who spamms Future sight, that is a reason why he couldn´t sense the scabbards sneak attacking him.
Kaido is someone who rather take everything and see it as challenge, so he rather tank his opponents attacks.

Means against scabbards, against the rooftop five, no one was "worth" for him to use future sight, he didn´t saw it as challenge, he didn´t even try. He stomped the scabbards, beat easily Law and Zoro without using future sight and his drunken form who made him even stronger.

It changed when Luffy used Snakeman with adv CoC and also future sight, he couldn´t dodge anything anymore because Snakeman was that fast. As example, Luffy from far away, was able to hit Kaido in sametime when Yamato attacked right in front of Kaido.

Snakeman speed is soo underrated here, it is a insane feat to dance around Snakeman or block his punches, only speedstars like Katakuri or Kizaru are able to do such a feat. In fact it was not just Snakeman, Luffy also used future sight.

So if Snakeman Luffy with future sight fail to hit a dancing Katakuri, what does this means about Katakuri?

 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman

That was after he faced a Yonkou

Then he healed the floor while still fighting both WHILE having the upper hand

And before you come with "Marco was down" like lol,for legit 1 or 2 Panels.Then he was ready again to outpace and block Kings attack
Base king who didn't use a smidge of what he used vs zoro was 100 percent when he started fighting zoro.

Queen leaves the fight vs Marco to go to chopper for 30 mins and then sanji takes over

Meaning the rest of the fight was king vs Marco 1 vs 1 and Marco was laid out and king untouched


King then went on to fight zoro and Marco then went on to cry that carrying izo will kill him
 
What people need to have in mind.
Kaido is not someone who spamms Future sight, that is a reason why he couldn´t sense the scabbards sneak attacking him.
Kaido is someone who rather take everything and see it as challenge, so he rather tank his opponents attacks.

Means against scabbards, against the rooftop five, no one was "worth" for him to use future sight, he didn´t saw it as challenge, he didn´t even try. He stomped the scabbards, beat easily Law and Zoro without using future sight and his drunken form who made him even stronger.

It changed when Luffy used Snakeman with adv CoC and also future sight, he couldn´t dodge anything anymore because Snakeman was that fast. As example, Luffy from far away, was able to hit Kaido in sametime when Yamato attacked right in front of Kaido.

Snakeman speed is soo underrated here, it is a insane feat to dance around Snakeman or block his punches, only speedstars like Katakuri or Kizaru are able to do such a feat. In fact it was not just Snakeman, Luffy also used future sight.

So if Snakeman Luffy with future sight fail to hit a dancing Katakuri, what does this means about Katakuri?

Katakuri > Yamato in my books, Kaido definitely didn’t use FS against her
 
Awakening seal the deal as well

G4 was not enough to deal with it.Only Luffys special stomach was the reason he broke out of it.Whats Zoros answer to it when he can move anymore and have no special stomach?Yeah,nothing lol
Zoro has a special stomach too lol; like how Luffy can eat forever, Zoro can drink forever. It's just preferences.

Anyway, none of that plot nonsense is needed.
Zoro can use advanced armament haki or advanced conqueror's haki to form barrier/gap around himself.

Then he can just use dragon twister and they all break apart.

There is no proof this would work on Zoro to begin with.
Zoro is not Luffy, he always reacts fast, which is why you can hardly even find instances of him getting tagged clean in 1v1 in the entire post timeskip. Just because WCI base Luffy failed to appropriately deal with it doesn't mean current Zoro would lmao
 
Base king who didn't use a smidge of what he used vs zoro was 100 percent when he started fighting zoro.

Queen leaves the fight vs Marco to go to chopper for 30 mins and then sanji takes over

Meaning the rest of the fight was king vs Marco 1 vs 1 and Marco was laid out and king untouched


King then went on to fight zoro and Marco then went on to cry that carrying izo will kill him
Bro forgetting about Perospero and all the gifters
 
Osome want making the creaks, but the sound of the creak was on Osomes location, which means those creaks weren’t accurate locations to queens position. Glad you could finally get to the point, but damn it took you a while.
OMFG

If the creaks were from osome's location, there would be little tails pointing to her on the creak speech bubble. Like how there was for Queen's creaks.

The reason why there isn't any tails is because the creaks are coming from outside the panel. That's what that means. Please learn basic manga/comic syntax and shit.


See how queen's creaks POINT TO HIM?

cReAkS wErEn'T aCcUrAtE LoCaTiOnS tO qUeEn'S pOsiTiON


Queen turned invisible literally right after Sanji kicked him and was actively fighting him, if Sanji could locate queen based on sound he’d have done it then.




Sanjo wasn't fighting queen there cause he was too surprised to fight...

Zerojust more and more zero IQ cope
Nah i'm done lol. you can believe what you want :risiup:
 
OMFG

If the creaks were from osome's location, there would be little tails pointing to her on the creak speech bubble. Like how there was for Queen's creaks.

The reason why there isn't any tails is because the creaks are coming from outside the panel. That's what that means. Please learn basic manga/comic syntax and shit.


See how queen's creaks POINT TO HIM?

cReAkS wErEn'T aCcUrAtE LoCaTiOnS tO qUeEn'S pOsiTiON







Sanjo wasn't fighting queen there cause he was too surprised to fight...


Nah i'm done lol. you can believe what you want :risiup:
Oda shows a panel of where Osome is and shows a creak

Dumb cope: THAT CREAK IS ACTUALLY NOT WHERE OSOME IS
:gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
 

HA001

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Yamatos acoc bagua matched hybrid kaidos acoc bagua for speed when they both landed

Luffys fs couldn't react to a base bagua barely

Anything he tries to do from range she can freeze

She can blitz him and cover herself in ice armour (Which let her tank hybrid kaido bagua WHICH SHITS ON A MILLION KATA ATTACKS) and just charge straight at him.


She is BODYING him
 
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