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Kizaru babyshaked g4 Luffy, no-diff
Kizaru played cat and mouse the rest of the way
Kizaru put up an act to fool Saturn, giving Luffy food is proof enough
Luffy did virtually no damage to Kizaru the entire arc even when he used g5 his strongest form AND the second strongest g5 attack (WSG) to date.
A marine soldier even commented ”where are your wounds sir“.
There is not enough excuses that Oda could give to Luffy to save his humiliation.
Anyone with average intelligence can see how much he held back Kizaru.
Luffy's Gear 4 was one-shotted by Kaido without advcoc
Another excuse that this form is meaningless without advcoc
Why didn't Oda let Luffy use advcoc in this form?
Kizaru did his best to do his job and even killed his friend
Luffy never used advcoc more than once and Kizaru was humiliated that very moment
Kizaru is no stronger than someone who has a God Fruit and uses the strongest Haki
This excuse is always made by Admiral fans
Aokiji
Kizaru
Green Bull
Oda only diminishes your humiliation by making excuses
 
Who knows if it was used or not. No character brought any attention to Luffy not using his powers, and according to Luffy himself says he always goes all out. Oda simply just doesn´t like drawing Haki sometimes.
Another crappy excuse
Did Luffy give it his all against Appo and Hoodie Jones?
Oda literally drew Garp and Shanks in the same arc very clearly with lightning
But he refused to draw Luffy more than once
Everything is clear
 
This focus on Figarlands yet again makes me think that Garling is going to be the strongest Gorosei. Tbh I was very sure of it when Garling became one of the elders and this just reassures me. I think the strength of the Gorosei is directly proportional to how close their respective planet is to Earth (or Imu) in this historical model of the solar system. Don't know how the Sun fits here tho at the moment ngl.

 
yeah but not only that I though that arrow are let say more resiliante and stronger elements than strings. So everything than Dofly can do Gunko can do it better and are way stronger
Yeah, I can definitely see those arrows being stronger than Doffy's strings.
Everything we've seen from Gunko till now was done effortlessly. When we see her full power, everybody will be surprised and start backtracking on their slander
 
It had nothing to do with the discussion and it proved that Luffy doesn't always use his full power
Luffy dont use advcoa & fruit vs ulti
And and and ......
Luffy says himself he always goes all out. Please go argue with Oda about your haki wizardry bs scam that Luffy learned from some Schizo old man in Wano and leave the rest of us out of it
 
Luffy says himself he always goes all out. Please go argue with Oda about your haki wizardry bs scam that Luffy learned from some Schizo old man in Wano and leave the rest of us out of it
Luffy himself says he will become stronger than Kizaru
Now that Luffy himself says he is at the peak of his power, why isn't he stronger than Kizaru?
No no no here because it is to my detriment Luffy's words don't matter
 
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