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The problem with who would win stuff is that one piece is just the fantasy of the author,nothing more. Oda doesn´t care about power levels that much. Unless there´s an in story reason, characters aren´t nerfed, thats just how Oda wrote the story.
 
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Luffy didn't use advcoo
Luffy didn't use advcoa and internal damage
Luffy didn't use advcoc more than once
Luffy didn't use sky-shaking haki against Kizaru
Kizaru tried his best to kill his friends but didn't try to kill Luffy?
This is just a stupid excuse Oda gave you
Anyone with average intelligence can see how much Luffy has been nerfed
They will tell you how they think kizaru wo
Yet WE NEVER SAW kizaru dominating or beating Luffy

Round 1 ? Luffy ended it with 1 serious hit that connected
Round 2? Kizaru and Saturn got dominated at the same time. Kizaru didn't get up again
 
waaaah waaaah he didnt use magic Haki beams with his conquerer power or whatever. Give me a break.
When did he use it more than once?
And that one time Kizaru was paralyzed
And if Luffy could use advcoc, why didn't Saturn get hurt?
If the Five Elders can't be defeated by advcoc, then what ability can defeat them?
Definitely magma, ice, and light
 
When did he use it more than once?
And that one time Kizaru was paralyzed
And if Luffy could use advcoc, why didn't Saturn get hurt?
If the Five Elders can't be defeated by advcoc, then what ability can defeat them?
Definitely magma, ice, and light
Who knows if it was used or not. No character brought any attention to Luffy not using his powers, and according to Luffy himself says he always goes all out. Oda simply just doesn´t like drawing Haki sometimes.
 
Burn your books
Luffy didn't use advcoo
Luffy didn't use advcoa and internal damage
Luffy didn't use advcoc more than once
Luffy didn't use sky-shaking haki against Kizaru
Kizaru tried his best to kill his friends but didn't try to kill Luffy?
This is just a stupid excuse Oda gave you
Anyone with average intelligence can see how much Luffy has been nerfed
Kizaru babyshaked g4 Luffy, no-diff
Kizaru played cat and mouse the rest of the way
Kizaru put up an act to fool Saturn, giving Luffy food is proof enough
Luffy did virtually no damage to Kizaru the entire arc even when he used g5 his strongest form AND the second strongest g5 attack (WSG) to date.
A marine soldier even commented ”where are your wounds sir“.
There is not enough excuses that Oda could give to Luffy to save his humiliation.
Anyone with average intelligence can see how much he held back Kizaru.
 
Haki is the most retarded shit in One Piece by far. Remember that canonically Ace wasn´t used to getting injured in the new world because he´s a logia. Lmfao. and now half the fanbase is debating dumb shit like if Loki can use Haki while tied up and in seastones.
If it's the case that it means that the vast majority of Ace's opponents in the NW were fodders.
 
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