Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1138 Spoilers Discussion

[Zemlya]

Everyone that claims Zoro vs Shamrock is a lock answer one question

Who will Luffy fight?

You’re kidding yourself if you think it’ll be Gunko

And there’s a very real chance Loki will be an ally rather than an enemy. It also looks like the mysterious figure (Gaban or Shiki) will also side with them

Will Luffy sit on the sidelines as Zoro, Nami, and Gaban/Shiki take care of business?

I doubt zoro will single-handedly take down shamrock this arc. But dreaming is free, so we have to dream

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

You can't prove that, Oda forgets to even draw haki half the time



Again with the speculating lol

Yet you are equally speculating lol

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Morley had no reason to hold back, Greenbull did

You are dodging this fact lmao

He has a reason not to go all out since their mission was to FREE KUMA and the slaves lol. It was basically get in free whom needs to be freed then dip out lol

 

[Jailer]

Big fan of a top tier with a mythical zoan based weapon tbh

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Everyone that claims Zoro vs Shamrock is a lock answer one question

Who will Luffy fight?

You’re kidding yourself if you think it’ll be Gunko

And there’s a very real chance Loki will be an ally rather than an enemy. It also looks like the mysterious figure (Gaban or Shiki) will also side with them

Will Luffy sit on the sidelines as Zoro, Nami, and Gaban/Shiki take care of business?

Gunko, Shams, Loki and Garling? There's plenty of options and he can fight them all.
Shams having a DF sword and showing it before Loki even does anything doesn't scream main antagonist to me.

 

[Germinator]

Yet you are equally speculating lol

Greenbull said he cannot fight here

Burden of proof is on you to prove he meant only devil-fruit and not haki as well when he didn't make such a distinction

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Greenbull said he cannot fight here

Burden of proof is on you to prove he meant only devil-fruit and not haki as well when he didn't make such a distinction

Yes because his fruits aoe was destroying the holy land as shown in manga and anme. It's the burden of proof for you to prove he was using haki or if his haki alone would be enough

Greens bulls boss also said that "THAT WAS AN EXCUSE". So It's burden of proof on you to prove akainu otherwise

 

[Levi]

“Tears will be shed agendas will be broken alliances will be shattered”

 

[Germinator]

He has a reason not to go all out since their mission was to FREE KUMA and the slaves lol. It was basically get in free whom needs to be freed then dip out lol

How does having a seperate mission mean he held back lol

If anything, doesn't the mission necessitate him trying his best because if he lost to Greenbull, he would be unable to free Kuma and the slaves lol?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Every shitty theory I've made relied on parallels for 90% of its explanations/justifications.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

How does having a seperate mission mean he held back lol

If anything, doesn't the mission necessitate him trying his best because if he lost to Greenbull, he would be unable to free Kuma and the slaves lol?

I don't follow. His ability allows him to dip. Exactly why would he have to go all out again?

 

[mmd]

Imu vs nika
Won imu
Imu vs joyboy
Won imu
Imu vs luffy
???
3 wars

 

[Germinator]

his fruits aoe was destroying the holy land as shown in manga and anme. It's the burden of proof for you to prove he was using haki or if his haki alone would be enough

Why didn't he specify just DF then? You seem to be speaking for him bud I didn't hear him mention just his df


But since you want to enter the world of possibilities and speculate away, I'll wager that physically fighting Morley or using his sword for example also could be very destructive and him restraining Morley's movements with vines was the most effective option

 

[SDfear]

They don't exist, Oda is tricking you guys

 

[Moegara]

Big fan of a top tier with a mythical zoan based weapon tbh

I'm not a fan of swordsmen with a zoan sword, but I am a fan of Shamrock thinking so little of a mythical zoan that he would give it to his sword instead of himself.

Given that Vegapunk recent technology is needed for that, it didn't happen on accident.

 

[Halyup]

Yeah, proper reading of Wano puts prime Oden below Whitebeard and above everyone else, IMO. Kaido knew Scopper and Rayleigh, and they weren't in his "people who can fight me" montage.

I don't think Oden fought Kaido at his prime, though, and that prime Kaido would have defeated prime Oden.

Roger fought DF less Kaido at God Valley
oden fought a stronger Kaido

 

[Germinator]

I don't follow. His ability allows him to dip. Exactly why would he have to go all out again?

We don't know if either had to go "all-out"

But we do know one had to hold back.

 

[Halyup]

Everyone that claims Zoro vs Shamrock is a lock answer one question

Who will Luffy fight?

You’re kidding yourself if you think it’ll be Gunko

And there’s a very real chance Loki will be an ally rather than an enemy. It also looks like the mysterious figure (Gaban or Shiki) will also side with them

Will Luffy sit on the sidelines as Zoro, Nami, and Gaban/Shiki take care of business?

Loki
loki goal is the same as Kaido

 

[Pringles]

They don't exist, Oda is tricking you guys

Hi.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Why didn't he specify just DF then? You seem to be speaking for him bud I didn't hear him mention just his df


But since you want to enter the world of possibilities and speculate away, I'll wager that physically fighting Morley or using his sword for example also could be very destructive and him restraining Morley's movements with vines was the most effective option

So you went around in circles to state my point " that greenbull alone using haki and his sword was not enough to restrain or defeat Morley hence why he had to rely on a devil fruit with alot of aoe even though it was naturally destructive to the holy land.

Well shit!!!

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We don't know if either had to go "all-out"

But we do know one had to hold back.

If we don't know if either had to go ALL OUT then we are saying that neither went all out lol

 

[Germinator]

So you went around in circles to state my point " that greenbull alone using haki and his sword was not enough to restrain or defeat Morley hence why he had to rely on a devil fruit with alot of aoe even though it was naturally destructive to the holy land.

GB stated he cannot fight here due to turf restrain, this restrain could apply to fruitless or fruit Ryo, he doesn't specify here

You're speculating as fuck to say this statement meant Fruit Ryo > Morley, Fruitless Ryo < Morley lol

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If we don't know if either had to go ALL OUT then we are saying that neither went all out lol

Yeah my point is that one held back, the other did not