Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1143 Spoilers Discussion

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Best female after timeskip was Monet, shame how Oda killed her off, and without her having any moment with her little sister Sugar or other crewmates than Doflamingo and Vergo
Monet was indeed one of the better ones. Monet being dead is better though.

Vivi was turned into another dumb bimbo bitch getting wet at the thought of Luffy.
 

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Kaidou was able to react to and block a (stronger) Snakeman attack without using Future Sight (FS), but he was eventually overwhelmed by the barrage of strikes. This shows that Snakeman's attacks are fast, but not instantaneous to the point of being impossible to react to without FS.

On the other hand, Luffy had to use FS to avoid the Thunder Bagua (TB), which means that without this future prediction, he simply wouldn't have been able to react in time. This indicates that TB's speed is greater than that of Snakeman's attacks.
Snakeman's attacks are different from a move like Thunder Bagua, no?

Snakeman's individual punch isnt that fast tbh, Katakuri just side stepped & dodged it. Where it shines, is it's attack rate & ability to keep redirecting towards its target. Its like a gatling but each punch keeps redirecting towards you even if you dodge it. To handle such an attack rate, Fs is required as Kata & Kaido showed.

Thunder Bagua, on the other hand, is a move thats like Zoro's Lions Song. A single-hit technique which is blindingly fast and needs Fs to be handled. Even if you do see the future, you arent dodging it unless you are fast enough (base -> g2 was the speed buff that Luffy needed).
 
Oh sure, I was wrong about Loki having a fight with them now but even a debater like me can sometimes be wrong, right? :myman:
Anyway, I also stated before that it's a lose lose situation for the M3 anyway, long before the current spoilers were revealed.

Oh man, it turned out, I was even underestimating Loki because this guy was really close to dying and he was still dealing so much damage to Elbaf. Imagine Loki without seacuffs and using his DF. No wonder Gaban feared this man. :steef:

Mark my words, Oda's also just fooling you guys because Loki is known as a trickster who's fooling others. Gaban warned them about Loki and Shanks wouldn't put someone on so many chains and seacuffs if he was genuinely good. I'm anticipated to what Loki will show at the end. It's gonna be entertaining af, I hope Oda won't fumble it. :finally:
Loki is HIM, it's just both you and your brother overrated him in his current state like he can pull a win or something.
 
Kaidou could react to and block attacks from a Snakeman stronger than the one in WCI without Future Sight. I don’t think Kaidou can block his own Thunder Bagua without Future Sight—that tells us which attacks are faster.

Kaidou was able to react to and block a (stronger) Snakeman attack without using Future Sight (FS), but he was eventually overwhelmed by the barrage of strikes. This shows that Snakeman's attacks are fast, but not instantaneous to the point of being impossible to react to without FS.

On the other hand, Luffy had to use FS to avoid the Thunder Bagua (TB), which means that without this future prediction, he simply wouldn't have been able to react in time. This indicates that TB's speed is greater than that of Snakeman's attacks.
Katakuri’s FS usage is even better than Luffy‘s, a normal TB wouldn’t work on him
If Hybrid Kaido wants to hit Katakuri, he needs FS
Other option would be dragon mode (normal not BB), with his AoE he wouldn’t need FS
Base Kaido can only dream of tagging Katakuri
 

Pre TS Robin and Zoro had such a cool dynamic. It's not that I hate the newer SH, but they'll never get any cool interactions like this because of bloat. Have Robin and Zolo even talked in the past couple years anyway? Lmfao
Actually Franky got that fantastic scene with Robin where he said "It's not a crime just to exist" but that was all the way back in Enies Lobby which is literally when he fuckin' joined the crew LOL
Best female after timeskip was Monet, shame how Oda killed her off, and without her having any moment with her little sister Sugar or other crewmates than Doflamingo and Vergo
Same author that didn't even have Queen and Franky look at eachother. Not surprising.
 
Another interesting comparison. Gear 4 debute was in chapter 784 in which Boundman dogwalked Doffy from activation till end of the chapter. Oda had fodder comment on how hard Luffy beat his ass.

Exactly 100 chapters later in 884 Luffy activated Gear 4 on Kuri and smacked him around, but Kuri's back didn't even touch the ground and he recovered and countered the living fuck out of Boundman. Katakuri even commented how he is STILL dominating Luffy. When Doffy tried to attack Luffy he bounced off of him like a fodder.
A chapter later Luffy ran out of G4 after doing jack to Kuri while Doffy had to take an entire round to the chin and only survived BECAUSE Luffy ran out of gas.
Lmfao. What a direct comparison this is.
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Actually Franky got that fantastic scene with Robin where he said "It's not a crime just to exist" but that was all the way back in Enies Lobby which is literally when he fuckin' joined the crew LOL

Same author that didn't even have Queen and Franky look at eachother. Not surprising.
Well yeah, Franky and Brook were really good in their intro arcs, but afterwards? Meh
 
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