Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1149 Spoilers Discussion

What is worse for the sword nation ?


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Rayleigh > Gaban in terms of rank is a matter of fact.

They are both Hands of the Pirate King, but one of them is the dominant hand, the Right Hand and First Mate/Vice Captain of the Roger Pirates.

In terms of strength, it's entirely possible (and seemingly likely) Rayleigh and Gaban are equals. Perhaps, perhaps not. Ch 1149 has reset the table on what is possible for both of them relative to Roger.

Zoro stans have been coping for decades at this point, but Oda choosing to put the stamp on Wings as a concept was a deliberate choice.
 
Rayleigh > Gaban in terms of rank is a matter of fact.

They are both Hands of the Pirate King, but one of them is the dominant hand, the Right Hand and First Mate/Vice Captain of the Roger Pirates.

In terms of strength, it's possible Rayleigh and Gaban were equals. Perhaps, perhaps not. Ch 1149 has reset the table on what is possible for both of them relative to Roger.

Zoro stans have been coping for decades at this point, but Oda choosing to put the stamp Wings as a concept was a deliberate choice.
We’ve literally had first mates have underlings equal to them in the manga. this would be nothing new
 
The attack was mean for luffy? YES


Zoro was able to block the attack without being hurt and no need to power up? Yes

Did Gaban manage to damage Zoro or even overpower him? WELL NO


If zoro being impressed and being worry for other mean he was overwhelmed himself then zoro Def also overwhelmed Big Mom when they were screaming about dodge kaido despidenot attacking her even once.


If that is what you mean then that feat only look even better now since no zoro fans ever implied zoro overwhelmed both right here just that they are were warry of zoros attack.
lmao you do not want to go there my man

The attack that was meant for White beard? YES

Jozu was able to block the attack without being hurt and no need to power up? YES

Did Mihawk manage to damage Jozu or even overpower him? WELL NO


I guess by your own logic, mihawk can't be above old wb or jozu right?
 
Zoro stopped 1 out of like 80 slashes lol

He did not stop the entire attack

He barely blocked 1/80 of a casual attack while using 3 swords
He stopped many of them, stop lying lmao.


This is the problem with you guy.

While some zoro.fans have their own bias you guy definitely have your too.


Anything to downplay zoro at all cost. Even going as to lie.

Zoro defected several of them oda can't draw zoro doing 50 movement in 1 panel so he just sow us one where he stopped the attack while over slash are fying elsewhere (after being deflected).


If you keep this up thing won't be solved between fandom and you should be the last to point finger on zoro fans again when you pushing this stupid agenda.


Gaban got his hype and so did Zoro.


Gaban gave up after seeing that both lufy and zoro can handle loki since their combined might is clearly above his.

That simple.
 
If Imu can possess Gunko this way, does it open the idea that the body of Imu right now may also just be someone being possessed by them?
Maybe Imu ain't being hidden to keep their appearance itself a secret but what if its a case of Imu has always been in possession of someone we know?

:choppawhat:
You just had me thinking

what if the identity of IMU is someone we knew already
 
Dam bro is really hurt this chapter.
Why would I be hurt when I predicted this months ago that he will fail cause he not built like Rayleigh. He is ass. Rayleigh had a Yonkou shook, but I am surpose to be impressed cause he snuck a HK and then beat him. What Sommers do to be considered top tier. Oh yeah he beat Saul a Vice admiral like Franky beat VA in Egghead 🤣
 
Why would I be hurt when I predicted this months ago that he will fail cause he not built like Rayleigh. He is ass. Rayleigh had a Yonkou shook, but I am surpose to be impressed cause he snuck a HK and then beat him. What Sommers do to be considered top tier. Oh yeah he beat Saul a Vice admiral like Franky beat VA in Egghead 🤣
goofy is a literal yonko lol

so gaben had a yonko and his right hand shook

And then the yonko's second mate said the yonko and right hand were overwhelmed


Where as Ray shook a yonko, then said he would have lost against that yonko if they fought

Ray's portrayal is clearly worse
 
Dude Gaban was so in shock seeing Collun dying that it certainly affected his CoO and morale, he didn’t thought about anything else other than surrendering, specially cuz Gunko said "A Pirate King crewmate? Resistance means a hostage's death"

You could argue he could've faked his surrender and then fight back, but its tough because of the desperation, he was even having flashbacks of Collun's birth

He dropped his axe and was in tears, and even if he faked his surrender and counter attacked, he might've considerated that being so close to Collun and other children would still be too risky overall. After all, Sommers still used a few more stuff before going down and before Gaban says he feels rusty.

Really desperate situation, and shit happened way too fast. Katakuri's CoO got affected by getting too pissed by Luffy seeing his true face, just imagine how it affected Gaban here 💀💀
 

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Why would I be hurt when I predicted this months ago that he will fail cause he not built like Rayleigh. He is ass. Rayleigh had a Yonkou shook, but I am surpose to be impressed cause he snuck a HK and then beat him. What Sommers do to be considered top tier. Oh yeah he beat Saul a Vice admiral like Franky beat VA in Egghead 🤣
How did he fail?

And how did he sneak Sommer from the literal front.
 
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