Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1149 Spoilers Discussion

What is worse for the sword nation ?


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Is that how a real final villain is supposed to act? :Shadow_Unimpressed:
Actually, yes. A cowardly, pathetic manipulator trying to play a family card hoping for mercy to try and find an advantage.

Its a disgusting and low move from someone in a story where everyone else usually put their bodies on the line for their dreams. Even someone as Bellamy had principles.

Blackbeards principles and morals are non-existent unless the situation demand any and solely for him to gain some advantage from it. Whatever narrative and advantage he can get to backstab, manipulate and scheme, he will do it.

Absolutely the perfect counterpart to Luffy.
 
He was but not anymore hence why oda took him out after wano
How does this even map to reality when Law is literally highlighted by Oda as one of the D members? Even in the arc where his fates is supposed to be concealed Oda tries to remind us of him LMAO

You’re coping hard if you think Law isn’t as important as he was. Being sideline like Vivi doesn’t mean they’re not important
 
All Admirals are gonna end up with CoC and if not, logia awakening will be a game changer.

They all represent their own form of justice. I've seen no top tier without CoC.
I don't understand Ya'll obsession over CoC.

Its fine if they dont have it. They are still top tier.
WB fruit is enough to send someone on top tier realm. And logia are stronger than that Canonically.

With basic haki and FS/Barrier. They are already set enough.

CoC / AdCoC is more coined towards users without DF.

Bigmom and WB , yes have both but neither of them were utilising it simultaneously.
 
@Roo Here is a banger:
Now ask them if sanji has more plot relevance than certain other members having more panel time, multiple arcs dedicated to him, and being involved in every major story beat post ts to see if they believe what they putting out. marvel at a spire more bend than pysically possible
:finally::finally::finally::finally:
 
On the other hand, especially because of that, I don't think the Lunarian argument holds that much of a value because I'm sure the Seraphim won't be defeated by only top tiers. There's a high chance they'll end up being defeated by the real Warlords.
That's your another mistake , Seraphims are not Stronger than King.
- King haki is Zoro level atleast
- King has Pyro manipulation
- Ancient Zoan.
 
Nah, Katakuri cannot injure King with flame mode, there's nothing he can do.

That's the thing, as long as we don't know how Lunarian durability works, these match-ups usually end up one-sided but knowing Oda, he's not introducing gimmicks to make certain characters completely invulnerable, there's always gonna be some drawback, we have yet to find it out. There's a reason King was switching modes even when fighting ACoC Zoro.

On the other hand, especially because of that, I don't think the Lunarian argument holds that much of a value because I'm sure the Seraphim won't be defeated by only top tiers. There's a high chance they'll end up being defeated by the real Warlords.
I reckon King will have to turn his flames off anyways but even then his endurance is high since he was tanking point blank ACoC blows from Zoro. But Katakuri's speed and FS far surpass that of King's so his best bet imo is keep dodging him and then outlast King (since Katakuri has shown far better stamina feats) while piling up damage. But like you said, oda always introduces plot conveniences to fit the situation at the time soo maybe we will find a counter to lunarian hax. After all, this race was fucking genocided. To cause a genocide, the WG definitely know about some weakness or the other
 
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