Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1149 Spoilers Discussion

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Buddy, she casually played with Jinbe and co and out of sudden bitches away to kill a hostage and u are here saying that if this was Usopp running towards her she would've done the same thing
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Yes, because they explicitly said that they would do that. They literally tell us that in chapter 1147 and 1148
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Kizaru>Bagua>Lions Song> Whatever Garp did idk the other.

For Sanji you have a point I just sometimes think hes like the second fastest dude around besides Kizaru lol.
You think Zoro has faster short burst speed than Garp? That's crazy, I don't think it's close at all. Lion's Song caps at around Kaku's reactions. I think Garp is several magnitudes faster than that. He covered hachinosu in no time, and blitzed Kuzan multiple times.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
It's Zoro all over again, people are mistaking CoC+CoA level Swordmanship for AdCoC..
What do we think @L57
You think Zoro has faster short burst speed than Garp? That's crazy, I don't think it's close at all. Lion's Song caps at around Kaku's reactions. I think Garp is several magnitudes faster than that. He covered hachinosu in no time, and blitzed Kuzan multiple times.
I confused Lions song with Gabans attack this chapter that cut Sommers in half lol. My bad.
 
Yes, because they explicitly said that they would do that. They literally tell us that in chapter 1147 and 1148
Yeah, by threatning to drop them from the huge ass tree to force the giants to do what they want, not by rushing to them and stabbing their necks, specifically the son of a famous retired pirate
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That was before Gaban started his rush to kill her. When he started she didn’t notice till he was right in front of her.
She already gave him the ultimatum and told him if he wanted to do it then go ahead. She'd already made her decision and it was him surrendering that made her give pause, she already knew what he aimed to do, he didn't make it unknown to her.

His future sight comes after he begins his dash.
 
Yeah, by making them fall off from the huge ass tree to force the giants to do what they want, not by rushing to them and stabbing their necks, specifically the son of a famous retired pirate
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So them explicitly saying they'll kill the kids if resistence is met before this chapter doesn't count to them being willing to explicitly kill the kids... cause they decide to try and kill them in a completely different way?

And again, she was going to kill the hostages before they even revealed that Gaban's son was among them. So bringing up his son as if she intended him specifically doesn't matter, cause she said it before knowing Gaban's child was with that group.
 
And I like how this goal post has completely moved from the point of contention.

How the fuck am I arguing about Whether Gunko intended to kill the children or not?

When I was arguing about her knowing that Robin was fighting Sommers.


Pushed me to an entirely different argument without even addressing that.
 
So them explicitly saying they'll kill the kids if resistence is met before this chapter doesn't count to them being willing to explicitly kill the kids... cause they decide to try and kill them in a completely different way?

And again, she was going to kill the hostages before they even revealed that Gaban's son was among them. So bringing up his son as if she intended him specifically doesn't matter, cause she said it before knowing Gaban's child was with that group.
Nah im tired have a good night
 
She already gave him the ultimatum and told him if he wanted to do it then go ahead. She'd already made her decision and it was him surrendering that made her give pause, she already knew what he aimed to do, he didn't make it unknown to her.

His future sight comes after he begins his dash.
His future sight triggered when he got face to face with her because that’s when she realized he was about to attack despite him running all that distance with the intent to attack.

Gunko One hundred percent needed the hostage otherwise she’d get the Sommers treatment.
 
His future sight triggered when he got face to face with her because that’s when she realized he was about to attack despite him running all that distance with the intent to attack.

Gunko One hundred percent needed the hostage otherwise she’d get the Sommers treatment.
blood was already leaking out of Colon's neck before his future sight triggered. She was already intent on killing him.

Don't try and reverse the course of events.


And guess what... the sommers treatment... STILL ISN'T A BLITZ



You have yet to prove he could blitz her. I have on panel him missing her and him not being fast enough in his future sight to stop her.
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I can post Gaban swinging for gunko and hitting air.

You don't have a panel of Gaban moving faster than Gunko can perceive or react to.
 
blood was already leaking out of Colon's neck before his future sight triggered. She was already intent on killing him.

Don't try and reverse the course of events.


And guess what... the sommers treatment... STILL ISN'T A BLITZ
Sommers 100% got blitz last chapter??

And I’m not you are. She was threatening to kill the kid if Gaban makes a move, Gaban makes it almost the entire way to Gunko before Gunko realizes it and is about to kill Colon, the second Gaban realizes he’s just a second too slow, he gives up.

The fact that Gaban made it all that distance before Gunko realized it is proof that if they were fighting head to head Gunko would get blitzed no question.
 
His future sight triggered when he got face to face with her because that’s when she realized he was about to attack despite him running all that distance with the intent to attack.

Gunko One hundred percent needed the hostage otherwise she’d get the Sommers treatment.
Thing is Gaban couldn't have low diffed her like he did Sommers, so Oda had to move the plot forward.. I think it would have been a drawn out fight..
 
Sommers 100% got blitz last chapter??

And I’m not you are. She was threatening to kill the kid if Gaban makes a move, Gaban makes it almost the entire way to Gunko before Gunko realizes it and is about to kill Colon, the second Gaban realizes he’s just a second too slow, he gives up.

The fact that Gaban made it all that distance before Gunko realized it is proof that if they were fighting head to head Gunko would get blitzed no question.
Gaban hit a Sommers who wasn't aware he was there and then slashed a Sommers who was actively freaking out.

Yet when Sommers actually gets in the mode to fight.



 
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