Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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Waidou facing Prime Xebec, God Valley made it seem like Kaidou had already clashed with Roger before, or that something happened between them. Now I wonder where he fought Whitebeard. Shanks was on the way to Marineford, and Big Mom—well, they acted like cats and dogs for decades. As for Oden, that was in Wano.
No doubt, he's the guy who faced the most top tiers in the entire series.

@MonsterKaido @Hanzo hattori @Levi

 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
With that design and appearance there is no way that comparison works

Hanafuda was in awe of Kaido power btw he basically worshipped him.
You know what I meant :moonwalk:

you can be rival with someone in your teens and then the guy you rivaled once became much stronger than you. Either because you’re dead or stopped growing or anything else

Yonko Shiki >> Silver Axe
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French powerscalers been downplaying Garp for over a decade because of this scene, saying shit like Garp only fought a weak Roger who started his career (like Smoker with Luffy) lol
French are dumb
 
So the HKs just stood there? Cmon man it’s clear where odas going with this. Roger teamed up against Rox while his crew fought the Rox Pirates with help from the HK and marines.
Like many others here I do expect that Imu killed a injured Xebec in the end. Probably after taking over the body of a HK. But only after Roger beat Xebec in a 1 v 1. Xebec was Rogers most important rival. Roger beating him in a 2 v 1 would make him a mere fraud and that goes against the portrayal Roger has among Xebecs former subordinates and just in general. He is the PK after all while Xebec has failed.
 
Like many others here I do expect that Imu killed an injured Xebec in the end. Probably after taking over the body of a HK. But only after Roger beat Xebec in a 1 v 1. Xebec was Rogers most important rival. Roger beating him in a 2 v 1 would make him a mere fraud and that goes against the portrayal Roger has among Xebecs former subordinates and just in general. He is the PK after all while Xebec has failed.
You mean the portrayal that Roger’s rivals are literally Xebecs subordinates? Roger not beating xebec alone is actually perfectly aligned with that.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
I'd agree if this was pre-ts but Roger stopped being the ceiling a while ago with shit like Joyboy and Imu
Or you think Roger is stronger than them too?
Nope

past legends doesn’t count

it’s like with Naruto

Hashirama was the ceiling for anyone except past legends and new gen. Hashirama was the strongest and first Hokage, Naruto dream for most of the manga

no one else could beat him or be superior to him

Olg gen or mid gen no one else is above Roger
 
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