Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

Crocodile High Diffs Marco, King, and Kat is that what you’re telling me? You really believe what your saying?
Hell nah

Croc ain't gonna high diff Kata, king, ben and Marco
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/my-current-tier-list.70692/post-6246955
Read up on this. I'm not lying when I say Croc > Commanders. Only Commander (that isn't a weird case like Kuzan or Mihawk where they're actually just a top/god tier) that can possibly beat or stalemate him is Benn Beckman
 
I get the Croc love-fest but y'all gotta be able to rationalize it in a way for us to make it believable.

Lucci got re-introduced into the story but he didn't just comback with his pre-ts skill set.
Oda had to give him awakening in order to justify him being in that high commander range.

Notion that Croc who's is terminally dependent on his fruit is going to somehow come into the story with just his logia in a world where powerful haki and other abilities exist and smoke some of the strongest high tiers isn't very convincing even with power-creep as the justification.

At least lead with awakening or something coz otherwise it's very hard to visualize.

@Sir Yasheen @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
 
One thing which doesn't make sense is the why oda is drawing so many parallels?

I don't think he ran out of ideas or doesn't know how to build the story.

It seems deliberate - Roger /SHs, Harald and Loki, Xebec and Teach, Garp and Coby, Glorissa and Boa.


There has to be narrative lore of some prophecy
Its naruto-hashirama-asura , sasuke-madara-indra all over again lol
 

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One thing which doesn't make sense is the why oda is drawing so many parallels?

I don't think he ran out of ideas or doesn't know how to build the story.

It seems deliberate - Roger /SHs, Harald and Loki, Xebec and Teach, Garp and Coby, Glorissa and Boa.


There has to be narrative lore of some prophecy
Nah not buying it.


As I said, people need to calm down with Cross guild wank. They aren't much important in grand scheme of things. Their only relevance is bringing Mihawk into a faction which can make him fight Zoro after Warlord system was abolished.


This is nothing to disrespect croc but a character who went down to Alabasta Luffy ain't coming back stronger than the likes of Kata, Ben, Marco and king.
 
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/my-current-tier-list.70692/post-6246955
Read up on this. I'm not lying when I say Croc > Commanders. Only Commander (that isn't a weird case like Kuzan or Mihawk where they're actually just a top/god tier) that can possibly beat or stalemate him is Benn Beckman
Yo not sure if you saw my tag earlier but if you don't mind could you send me the template you used to make your tierlist you posted the other day?
 
I get the Croc love-fest but y'all gotta be able to rationalize it in a way for us to make it believable.

Lucci got re-introduced into the story but he didn't just comback with his pre-ts skill set.
Oda had to give him awakening in order to justify him being in that high commander range.

Notion that Croc who's is terminally dependent on his fruit is going to somehow come into the story with just his logia in a world where powerful haki and other abilities exist and smoke some of the strongest high tiers isn't very convincing even with power-creep as the justification.

At least lead with awakening or something coz otherwise it's very hard to visualize.

@Sir Yasheen @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
Croc wasn't some rando CP9 agent pre-TS. He was a Warlord and proved himself capable at MF.

 
I get the Croc love-fest but y'all gotta be able to rationalize it in a way for us to make it believable.

Lucci got re-introduced into the story but he didn't just comback with his pre-ts skill set.
Oda had to give him awakening in order to justify him being in that high commander range.

Notion that Croc who's is terminally dependent on his fruit is going to somehow come into the story with just his logia in a world where powerful haki and other abilities exist and smoke some of the strongest high tiers isn't very convincing even with power-creep as the justification.

At least lead with awakening or something coz otherwise it's very hard to visualize.

@Sir Yasheen @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier
He will have Haki lol
 
Nah not buying it.


As I said, people need to calm down with Cross guild wank. They aren't much important in grand scheme of things. Their only relevance is bringing Mihawk into a faction which can make him fight Zoro after Warlord system was abolished.


This is nothing to disrespect croc but a character who went down to Alabasta Luffy ain't coming back stronger than the likes of Kata, Ben, Marco and king.
We're yet to see Beckman, but he's eclipsed those others. He's the #2 in a Yonko's crew, and not just a #2, but a co-leader.

Everything from his bounty to his position puts him over the likes of Marco and King.
 
Croc wasn't some rando CP9 agent pre-TS. He was a Warlord and proved himself capable at MF.

Y'all got chill with these kinda clashes.
In that same arc, the very same Croc who you're gassing up was threatened enough by pre-ts Luffy to stop attacking WB. This was his level and even on MF when his strength was quote and quote "retconned" his weakness were pretty glaring. This is the man that people are saying is going to high diff peak high tiers :shame:
It's not hard to look menacing with a powerful Logia like his. Hell even Smoker who has a weaker DF was flexing on MF.
I'm not saying Croc is not going to be upscaled in some way. It is feasible but y'all have to come with much better arguments than "he's a shichibukai" or "he blocked mihawk". Fcking Vista was able to fight Mihawk to a bloody draw on MF and the man is fodder to top tiers.

Also I'm not the biggest Lucci fan but calling Lucci a random Cp9 agent is very disingenuous and even the whole warlord argument you're using goes to shit simply by looking at the SHs PL rankings.

The reality is that I could make a very strong argument for Jinbe beating Croc but that very same Jinbe would get washed by any peak high tier.
Croc has a powerful Devil Fruit but that is it but at the top level when put against powerful haki users, he's incredibly limited.
 
Controversial take for an Admiral fan I guess: I have never hated or even disliked Koby. He’s not exactly a favorite of mine but he’s never bothered me, his writing has been fine and I have never had any real problems with him.

I have seen Admiral fans claim that Koby would disgrace the rank by making it to Admiral but like, all Admirals were just born as normal humans. That’s part of what makes them goated, they are just normal humans who reached the absolute pinnacle through hard work and training, not born gorillas like Kaido or Big Mom or born Celestial Dragon seed like Saint Shanks and Mihawk, they are just normal dudes who went from 0-100 and still wound up stronger than your favorites.

Koby is an absolute W for the Admiral agenda, dude is 12 years old and already outputting more raw power than Hakai.
I am kicking you out of the admiral agenda for this
 
Y'all got chill with these kinda clashes.
In that same arc, the very same Croc who you're gassing up was threatened enough by pre-ts Luffy to stop attacking WB. This was his level and even on MF when his strength was quote and quote "retconned" his weakness were pretty glaring. This is the man that people are saying is going to high diff peak high tiers :shame:
It's not hard to look menacing with a powerful Logia like his. Hell even Smoker who has a weaker DF was flexing on MF.
I'm not saying Croc is not going to be upscaled in some way. It is feasible but y'all have to come with much better arguments than "he's a shichibukai" or "he blocked mihawk". Fcking Vista was able to fight Mihawk to a bloody draw on MF and the man is fodder to top tiers.

Also I'm not the biggest Lucci fan but calling Lucci a random Cp9 agent is very disingenuous and even the whole warlord argument you're using goes to shit simply by looking at the SHs PL rankings.

The reality is that I could make a very strong argument for Jinbe beating Croc but that very same Jinbe would get washed by any peak high tier.
Croc has a powerful Devil Fruit but that is it but at the top level when put against powerful haki users, he's incredibly limited.
Also Mihawk blocked him there lmao
It wasn't Croc blocking Mihawk or them both attacking each other
It's not a clash
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I am kicking you out of the admiral agenda for this
For being correct?
You know how rare it is that Lee is correct on something? Give him a break.
 
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