Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

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after reading this argument online I strongly believe the Kagami is Tobi.

What if... Kagami Uchiha was Tobi!! I'm starting to wonder if the fellow pupil of Hiruzen Sarutobi and Danzo Shimura, Kagami Uchiha (seen in the last thoughts of Danzo, after his battle with Sasuke) could be Tobi (Madara Uchiha)? Since i doubt very strongly that Tobi is actually Madara! I have found a couple of pages from the manga which support my theory:

In the following page, the Tsuchikage makes reference to Madara's ''Mooneye Operation'' to be alot like what Danzo's idea of the Shinobi World is... i believe that Madara and Danzo think alike for their respective plans because they were fellow pupils, and Kagami seemed to be in Danzo's three-man cell rather than Sarutobi's... which explains why they think alike! http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v50/c467/17.html

Here, we see the three-man cells of both Sarutobi and Danzo. As I said up above, i believe Kagami Uchiha and Akimichi Torifu were in Danzo's squad, under the 2nd Hokage, like Sarutobi's squad. http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c481/

I found this other page while re-reading the fight between Madara and Minato during Naruto's birth and the Kyubi attack of 16 years ago. After their ''Battle of Speed'', Minato describes Madara's space-time ninjutsu to be better than his own space-time ninjutsu and even the 2nd Hokage's, Nidaime Hokage. And it might just be me forgeting stuff, but wasn't that the first and only time someone spoke of the Nidaime Hokage to have had space-time ninjutsu?? And if he did, then it explains that he could have tought one of his students the space-time ninjutsu techniques! Furthermore, Masashi Kishimoto seems to like making the students become stronger than their master in this series (Orochimaru and Sarutobi, Sasuke and Kakashi, Naruto and Jiraiya, Shikamaru and Asuma...) so it makes sense that the student of the 2nd Hokage could have developped space-time ninjutsus even better than his master. http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v53/c502/11.html

I have no page to support my following argument, but it makes sense anwyays, you'll see! Kishimoto told on many sites that the name of the 2nd Hokage (Nidaime) was Tobirama Senju... and alot of people, including me, think that the name Madara Uchiha used, ''Tobi'', could have been in reference to Tobirama Senju, the 2nd Hokage. Now, I think this is very probable because if Kagami Uchiha studied under him, than it is indeed a strong possibility that he would've taken a nickname from his old master. Tobi from Tobirama.

To add to my theory about Tobi / Kagami Uchiha, would'nt it be great if the reason why Tobi seemed so surprise to see Kabuto's last Edo Tensei coffin was because it's Madara Uchiha?! And that Kagami Uchiha could be Izuna Uchiha's (Madara's little brother) son!? Maybe he was Madara's nephew and after his father's death he was raised under Madara's ideologies? This makes sense since Madara and Izuna are the same age as Hashirama and Tobirama, so Kagami could have easily been the child of either of those Uchiha brothers! And it could make for a very interesting plot twist in the Naruto series!
 
I feel Oda did make a mistake of Kuma being the one to save everyone, just because he is OP's Jesus Christ analogy.

So, if Garp told the World Nobles he was going to take the survivors away and if any objected, they could talk to his fist? That would have saved his character in a heartbeat.
 
I feel Oda did make a mistake of Kuma being the one to save everyone, just because he is OP's Jesus Christ analogy.

So, if Garp told the World Nobles he was going to take the survivors away and if any objected, they could talk to his fist? That would have saved his character in a heartbeat.
Thats his style and they want execute him after but since he is now the legendary hero they can't lmao . Garp would 100% punch a celestial in the face if he piss him off .
 

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I feel Oda did make a mistake of Kuma being the one to save everyone, just because he is OP's Jesus Christ analogy.

So, if Garp told the World Nobles he was going to take the survivors away and if any objected, they could talk to his fist? That would have saved his character in a heartbeat.
I think it would of been fine if Kuma's story ended with Kuma's death
 
Man the start of the chapter is such a great depiction of how fucked up this whole event really is, even better with how Dragon is witnessing all of it. Haven't felt this repulsed at the WG since Law's flashback (not counting Kuma's since it's basically the same event).

Kinda makes me mad that the stupid Shakky simping plotline is here. Xebec at least gets shpwn to have an actual good motivation and is just using Shakky as an excuse but Roger and his crew feel straight up stupid here.
Like even Luffy would be apalled and get serious at seeing such a massacre take place.

Hopefully his characterization gets better once he, Garp and Xebec actually clash.
 
I mean it’s not like Roger would enter a war to fight Rox. Roger already knew where Rox was
Well yeah but pirate island is a place where you aren't supposed to fight

I genuinely feel like "Morgans says there's legendary treasures on God Valley, let's get them before Rocks men!"


Wouldn't have been hard to believe. Like at all.

And from a writing perspective you could have just had Roger in the West Blue for literally any reason
 
Well yeah but pirate island is a place where you aren't supposed to fight

I genuinely feel like "Morgans says there's legendary treasures on God Valley, let's get them before Rocks men!"


Wouldn't have been hard to believe. Like at all.

And from a writing perspective you could have just had Roger in the West Blue for literally any reason
the reason is much simpler than all that

oda is a horny clown. that's why the biggest incident in op was about a woman
 
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