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If both people have very strong haki and one has DF that don't mean the DF person should be or would be stronger .
There so many differnt level to haki BS that it can even shut down certain DF aspect .
Still having a DF is a advantage just depends on who fighting and how you used it with your haki .
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
At that’s true, prime Rayleigh injured by fodder while Kizaru was scratchless against Nika. Lol

The Chadmirals are THEM bro, they are the strongest fighters in the verse.
To me people like Ray aren't even a shocker. The real shocker was Kaidou, a guy with a specific df, a top tier specifically hyped for durability came out with worse durability feats than Kizaru. I shit you not that's not an exaggeration they fought the same guy and far weaker attacks managed to breach Kaidou couldn't leave a mark on Kizaru. It's almost dumb, but then I remember Oda loves certain characters to remain unblemished, Kizaru was always one of them (he also left MF without a scratch). In Kizaru's case though we were told he has elite defense, so it's actually intentional.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Did I hear Kizaru and Rayleigh in the same line?


Old rayleigh BTW.
Kizaru could have spammed five dozen light clones at Rayleigh, but didn’t.

Kizaru could have hit Rayleigh with orbital kicks like he did to Snake Man, but didn’t.

Kizaru massively held back against Rayleigh lol.

Meanwhile prime Rayleigh can’t defeat teen Marco, can’t defeat Bogard, gets injured by fodder, one of Rival Man’s Seven Rivals, prime Rayleigh is just pathetic lol.

Kizaru + 1 light clone would have easily beaten Rayleigh but Oda gives his pirates all of the plot armor he can muster lol.
 
Whitebeard’s real prime age was like 62, this version of Whitebeard had yet to accomplish anything that Whitebeard would later accomplish. He wasn’t even Rival Man’s rival yet lmfao.

As much as I hate Haki scaling, Primebeard’s Haki against Roger was island level during the Oden flashback, this Whitebeard’s Haki isn’t even city block level.



I don’t think even King glazes Kaido this hard lmfao. Absolutely nothing about Kaido begging Big Mom to find a fruit for him is substantiated by this comment. Lol

Kaido couldn’t find his own devil fruit, couldn’t fight Garp solo, couldn’t fight Rocks, couldn’t even rival Rival Man, Kaido is just some irrelevant silver medalist like his rivals Big Mom, Lolden, and Hanafuda.
Lmfao WB was in his early 40s when he split the sky and it is confirmed prime WB is 38 year old in his vivre card.

King considered Kaido as strongest and said him to keep being strongest lol.

We do not know full events of GV yet. Kaido was a rookie apprentice pirate and yet wanted to fight Prime garp where as lakainu had no issues following Sengoku's orders to nerf Sick WB and was attacking heart attack ridden WB.

Kaido achieved highest active bounty , WSC hype status , WSM hype status , has best of feats. Keep on coping like you always has lol 😆
 
If both people have very strong haki and one has DF that don't mean the DF person should be or would be stronger .
There so many differnt level to haki BS that it can even shut down certain DF aspect .
Still having a DF is a advantage just depends on who fighting and how you used it with your haki .
How often do you see WB, Law, Bigmom, Fujitora using their powers alongside haki?

Their powers don't work like Zoan (kaidou and luffy) or Paramacia type like (Katakuri and doffy) which provides extra AP for combining it with DF.

Only job haki is doing in Other paramcia type is making Logia/Paramacia user a material targets.
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Kizaru could have spammed five dozen light clones at Rayleigh, but didn’t.

Kizaru could have hit Rayleigh with orbital kicks like he did to Snake Man, but didn’t.

Kizaru massively held back against Rayleigh lol.

Meanwhile prime Rayleigh can’t defeat teen Marco, can’t defeat Bogard, gets injured by fodder, one of Rival Man’s Seven Rivals, prime Rayleigh is just pathetic lol.

Kizaru + 1 light clone would have easily beaten Rayleigh but Oda gives his pirates all of the plot armor he can muster lol.
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Garp making 3 future Yonko run
Garp destroying BM portrayal wise
Ray chan is a airbar merchant
WB, Shiki, BM and Kaido are portrayed as the 4 stronges5/main Rocks Pirates
Restrained Shakky broke Sommers arm
Jika shit is really Captain John shit
Cover Jinbei is sitting on top Dorry
Cover Zoro has a shirt with the golden bird that Oda mentioned in volume 111, the big fish is Shirahoshi
The cook is collecting all the minors in the cover
Did anything else happen?
 
How often do you see WB, Law, Bigmom, Fujitora using their powers alongside haki?

Their powers don't work like Zoan (kaidou and luffy) or Paramacia type like (Katakuri and doffy) which provides extra AP for combining it with DF.

Only job haki is doing in Other paramcia type is making Logia/Paramacia user a material targets.
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do admiral fans not realize that trying that light clone shit against someone who can just disperse them with tons of slashes (similar to gaban's attack on luffy and zoro) is a dumb idea
and also doing a kick that's incredibly linear and predictable is also a dumb idea, if they decide to send a slash at you while you're moving at that speed you're getting bisected like a frog in a 5th grade science class lmfao
 
Eustass Captain Kidd is one of the two characters who are being called "Captain" beside Captain John.
I feel like Oda is just going to reveal a bunch of these nepo piece connections in an SBS, like with Zoro’s lineage

Bege will be revealed as Marlon’s son
Kid is John’s son
Drake is Kyo’s grandson
Apoo is Ganzui’s son
 
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