Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

[comrade]

Lackeybeard's resume in this flashback is astonishing.

- A trophy won by Xebec through a Davy Back fight
- Shakky Simper
- Gets mad at pirates betraying Xebec and defending him like an errand boy
- Running away from Warp when backed up by his fellow future Yonko

The heck is going on. @ZenZu @Sentinel @MarineHQ @SakazOuki @Elder Lee Hung

 

[ako]

did you not read the spoilers or something?

I did. It says, they didnt have the time to fight him. Still need to see why that is or if it's convincing enough. Still massive Garp upscale obviously. And there is no doubt that Garp is stronger than GV WB.

But from what we know post GV is when WBs era started and he is the one who was constantly called WSM.

 

[ZenZu]

Recency bias is a bitch, remember that.

WB not picking an unecessary fight is par for the course for him. Luffy and Zoro were running away from Apoo lol.​

That's outdated now unfortunately. This is the new meta

It doesn't matter if you think WB isn't weaker or w.e, putting Prime Garp below Prime WB atm is memeworthy. The story is doing everything to state otherwise.

 

[Dragon777]

Recency bias is a bitch, remember that.

WB not picking an unecessary fight is par for the course for him. Luffy and Zoro were running away from Apoo lol.​

Narrative bias is a a bias too.

Oda had to sell MF was a contendable when in fact It was a one way slaughter.

(I have WB>Roger btw)

 

[Fujishiro]

Neither Garp nor Sengoku did much in mf.
Kuzan and Kizaru were aura farming too. Only Sakazuki actually tried. And he put holes in the king of the sea's chest and obliterated half his brain too.

If the marine top tiers actually tried, mf would have been an even more one sided massacre.

Yes it wouldve been, it was a suicide attempt from him. Doesnt change a thing about how he would fare as an individual (In Garps mind that is, as he called him the King). You seem to forget that WB was massively weakened, diseased and couldnt even use haki properly as when he tried to use CoC he literally had a heart attack.

His marineford statements need to be corrected.

Ducked Kaido after killing "family".

Ran away all the time.

Bro is really looking like a massive fraud in his MF statements Fuji there's no denying it.

Character assassination happened with the Wano stuff. But explain to me why would WB go after Garp when he stated last chapter he wanted to save Shakky. Was Garp holding Shakky captive?

 

[MonochromeYoru]

You didnt explain why it was necessary for WB to fight Garp in that moment instead of go save Shakky which was his stated mission last chapter. Its not in WBs character to do that lol.

Cause garp wouldn't just go away? He was coming for their asses anyway.

wb+meme is two top tiers. And kaido at least yc1. Vs garp the lone top tier.

They shoulda beat him then and there instead of running.

 

[fanboy]

L for Dragon

 

[The DevilMaster]

WB WinWin and Waido Top 3 of Rocks crew without doubt @MonsterKaido @The DevilMaster @Hanzo hattori @Levi

Garp massive gas is a shocker but also expected due to Monkey lineage and Bumgoku hyping him up. This feat makes this statement from Kuzan very legit now. Going for the kill and team effort, still managed to survive despite allat

But the biggest shocker is Whitebeard downscale to non-prime BM and Kaido level unlike duo mf had ACoC and Gura and still RAN away from Garp in a 1v3 he was close to if not in his prime. WB's equal man Dodger running away from prime BM is so real now

Shiki and the Straw Hat axe are the real frauds here, the monster trio is defined as Waidou, Winwin, and Wigabeard, Kaidou at 21 > Lhiki.

 

[Fujishiro]

That's outdated now unfortunately. This is the new meta

It doesn't matter if you think WB isn't weaker or w.e, putting Garp below WB atm is memeworthy. The story is doing everything to state otherwise.

That was before WB reached his prime though, we see this chapter that Roger and WB fought as well. I havent put Garp below WB and never did, I think they are equal-ish but in a fight to the death Id bet on WB thats all lol.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Yes it wouldve been, it was a suicide attempt from him. Doesnt change a thing about how he would fare as an individual (In Garps mind that is, as he called him the King). You seem to forget that WB was massively weakened, diseased and couldnt even use haki properly as when he tried to use CoC he literally had a heart attack.

That's just hype statements lol

Garp called Ray a legend the same level as wb. Does that make ray = wb?

 

[HerreraIsBack]

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#OnePiece_Spoiler Roger engages in a battle against Whitebeard to pave the way for, and even said it himself:You must go, Rayleigh.” Both Roger and Scopper stood by Rayleigh’s side, and in the end, they shed tears of joy.

If that's true this is peak

 

[Fujishiro]

Lackeybeard's resume in this flashback is astonishing.

- A trophy won by Xebec through a Davy Back fight
- Shakky Simper
- Gets mad at pirates betraying Xebec and defending him like an errand boy
- Running away from Warp when backed up by his fellow future Yonko

The heck is going on. @ZenZu @Sentinel @MarineHQ @SakazOuki @Elder Lee Hung

He quite literally fights Roger this chapter, why did you omit that.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Y
Character assassination happened with the Wano stuff. But explain to me why would WB go after Garp when he stated last chapter he wanted to save Shakky. Was Garp holding Shakky captive?

Garp is literally the most powerful subordinate of the CDs on the island

Holding him off is fucking HUGE for saving Shakky LMAO

 

[Fujishiro]

That's just hype statements lol

Garp called Ray a legend the same level as wb. Does that make ray = wb?

Ray is close to WB yeah. I mean Gaban and Ray are close to Roger power wise to it makes sense in my mind.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

SO IN THE END RYLEIGH WOULD HAV ELET SHAKKY DIE IF IT WASNT FOR ROGER

WHERE ZORO FANS AT

why gabano is crying?

 

[Blahmigooo]

AINT NO WAY ROGER HAD TO STEP IN TO STOP WHITE BEARD SO RAYLEIGH CAN DEFEAT A YOUNG SOMMERS WHO IS NOT IN HIS PRIME TO GET CREDIT WITH SHAKKY

OMG ODA U ARE A CLOWN BUT THIS IS GONE TWO FAR

Really??
No fking way....

From Ray matchup being Garling or WB to Roger stopping WB for Ray to go take out Lommers huh??

From leakers hint, i thought we will get an insane Rayleigh wank.
Turns out it's standard W and nothing crazy...... if not, look worse for some agenda

 

[Fujishiro]

Garp is literally the most powerful subordinate of the CDs on the island

Holding him off is fucking HUGE for saving Shakky LMAO

Unless we see Garp literally standing between WB and Shakky and WB running the other way then your point has no ground.

 

[ZenZu]

That was before WB reached his prime though, we see this chapter that Roger and WB fought as well. I havent put Garp below WB and never did, I think they are equal-ish but in a fight to the death Id bet on WB thats all lol.

Worst case scenario now for Garp is = to WB and Roger. That's become worst case for him.

Someone can straight up say they place Garp ahead of WB and they would be justified. These titles never applied to Marines, nor are they 1v1 guarantees, I've always told people this. They are hype tool descriptors for larger than life pirates. Oda is now showing us the biggest event in Old Gen history and he has made it obvious to the readers that Garp is 1A side while WB is 1B. The conclusion cannot be WB >= Garp, I'm fine with just calling these dudes relative and leaving it at that.

 

[The DevilMaster]

Prime WB even with Linlin and Kaido as backup fled the scene, so that's really a no brainer.

But they didn’t have the goal of defeating Garp. Kaidou wanted to fight but they didn’t let him, and Whitebeard clashed with Roger, who was with Rayleigh and Gaban.

What difference does it make for Whitebeard to not fight Garp and then, one panel later, be fighting Roger?

 

[Fujishiro]

Cause garp wouldn't just go away? He was coming for their asses anyway.


wb+meme is two top tiers. And kaido at least yc1. Vs garp the lone top tier.

They shoulda beat him then and there instead of running.

I mean MF was half destroyed and it took some time for Garp and Sengoku to beat Shiki. Why would WB bother? Once again they arent mortal enemies and WB has no reason to stand his ground if he can just avoid the fight and go save Shakky lol.