Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread
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When did I say Koby needed a victory? I said Koby hasn't fought a single named opponent. Drake did get Ls at Wano but all those Ls were coming from character who're strong af fighters. The man literally was so strong that a Tobi roppo and a YC planned an ambush to deal with him, rather than straight up.
You're comparing that to a character who doesn't have a single fight in the series except fighting fodders. And expecting them to have the same growth in the series at the same time.
And I already said Koby will be a top tier and an admiral, but in the epilogue. Just like Tashigi will be WSS-level but in the epilogue. Their growths don't have any realistic avenue by Oda's own standards for them to reach such levels within few months. But easily possible for them to reach those levels once they peak out over the years post-final war.
You're comparing that to a character who doesn't have a single fight in the series except fighting fodders. And expecting them to have the same growth in the series at the same time.
And I already said Koby will be a top tier and an admiral, but in the epilogue. Just like Tashigi will be WSS-level but in the epilogue. Their growths don't have any realistic avenue by Oda's own standards for them to reach such levels within few months. But easily possible for them to reach those levels once they peak out over the years post-final war.
@ZenZu see this is what i mean this guy always gets butt blasted when called out to cope about shit.
He said that because i said he cried now he is out of unintelgable stuff and just repeats it like a parrot:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...discussion-thread.72934/page-265#post-6342427
Actually seething about an avi because he gets bodied every day on this forum
He said that because i said he cried now he is out of unintelgable stuff and just repeats it like a parrot:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...discussion-thread.72934/page-265#post-6342427
Actually seething about an avi because he gets bodied every day on this forum
Brah what would clones do to old Ray? They serve as nothing more than fodder control or distraction and easily get one shot by shockwaves. Kizaru tried to get past Ray using Yata mirror and failed
Wuzan def built different. Garp chuujo's disciple knows you need df + battleship bags to push an old legend to at least CoC burst territory
Wuzan def built different. Garp chuujo's disciple knows you need df + battleship bags to push an old legend to at least CoC burst territory
Kizaru after the Rayleigh fight:
- shows yasakani no magatama
- shows cross island orbital kicks
- shows fucking kage bunshin no jutsu
Rayleigh after the Kizaru fight:
- shows a Vista flower type sword attack
@Ven437 : “wow guys look, Kizaru wasn’t making Rayleigh use his bag”
??????????????
@ZenZu @soupongo @MarineHQ
- shows yasakani no magatama
- shows cross island orbital kicks
- shows fucking kage bunshin no jutsu
Rayleigh after the Kizaru fight:
- shows a Vista flower type sword attack
@Ven437 : “wow guys look, Kizaru wasn’t making Rayleigh use his bag”
??????????????
@ZenZu @soupongo @MarineHQ
You dont even read the threads you are posting testicle, you just want to be involved because no one takes you seriously
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...oilers-discussion.72083/page-136#post-6309936
Stop pretending now
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...oilers-discussion.72083/page-136#post-6309936
Stop pretending now
Not a rebuttal to me at all; I never claimed he wasn't renown at all pre or post-timeskip and didn't make a claim that could be interpreted as such.
Smoker has not been cast as a symbol in the same light as Garp has been shown to be the series over, he's the symbol of peace in the East Blue; his whole method as we see again and again is punching moles back into their holes, he punches pirates.
Koby's whole shtick is the defense of life from a weaker position, all his defining moments bar whenever he needs to assert himself to give his position legitimacy (punching Luffy in Shell Town to strike out for his dream/break that reverence, challenging Luffy in Marienford which gave Koby weight as a soldier, otherwise him making the bravest decision a soldier could make of defying unjust orders on the battlefield, at least as they see it, would have no weight at all or he'd just have been a deserter).
Sengoku is not cast as that.
Koby is Garp's pupil and is blatantly being cast again and again as something the Marines should be, cast as their avatar in this era; he had *the* climactic moment of Marineford/pre-timeskip One Piece defending the life of his fellow soldiers on the grand stage; Oda has not on page made any effort to give Smoker similar plot elements.
Smoker is the captain of a faction that as of post-Fishman Island was still torching pirates and is likened again and again to pirates and- well I'm not going to define Smoker because none of what you talked about is relevant to my post as I didn't say his relationship with Luffy doesn't parallel Garp's with Roger.
I specially said it does, just as I specifically said Smoker parallels Garp.
Like I don't even know what you're trying to argue against in my post.
"Sengoku for sure was the face of the Marines"
No.
Not at all.
Sengoku was the administrator, he shouldered the burden that Garp shirked to sail and punch people, but just because the big makes mention their names together doesn't mean the common folk see Garp and Sengoku as representing the Navy equally.
That's pretty clearly not the case.
Koby parallels Garp, Smoker parallels Garp, is this your first work or fiction?
Are you scared of the fact that they mutually parallel Garp and that their parallels purposely point them to take different directions than Garp did?
Smoker has not been cast as a symbol in the same light as Garp has been shown to be the series over, he's the symbol of peace in the East Blue; his whole method as we see again and again is punching moles back into their holes, he punches pirates.
Koby's whole shtick is the defense of life from a weaker position, all his defining moments bar whenever he needs to assert himself to give his position legitimacy (punching Luffy in Shell Town to strike out for his dream/break that reverence, challenging Luffy in Marienford which gave Koby weight as a soldier, otherwise him making the bravest decision a soldier could make of defying unjust orders on the battlefield, at least as they see it, would have no weight at all or he'd just have been a deserter).
Sengoku is not cast as that.
Koby is Garp's pupil and is blatantly being cast again and again as something the Marines should be, cast as their avatar in this era; he had *the* climactic moment of Marineford/pre-timeskip One Piece defending the life of his fellow soldiers on the grand stage; Oda has not on page made any effort to give Smoker similar plot elements.
Smoker is the captain of a faction that as of post-Fishman Island was still torching pirates and is likened again and again to pirates and- well I'm not going to define Smoker because none of what you talked about is relevant to my post as I didn't say his relationship with Luffy doesn't parallel Garp's with Roger.
I specially said it does, just as I specifically said Smoker parallels Garp.
Like I don't even know what you're trying to argue against in my post.
"Sengoku for sure was the face of the Marines"
No.
Not at all.
Sengoku was the administrator, he shouldered the burden that Garp shirked to sail and punch people, but just because the big makes mention their names together doesn't mean the common folk see Garp and Sengoku as representing the Navy equally.
That's pretty clearly not the case.
Koby parallels Garp, Smoker parallels Garp, is this your first work or fiction?
Are you scared of the fact that they mutually parallel Garp and that their parallels purposely point them to take different directions than Garp did?
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