One Piece Chapter 1165: Echo

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I guess we shoulda saw this coming, Garp is the Grandfather of Luffy and a D. We were stupid to think Oda would place him below Roger or Whitebeard, but tbf we were mislead.
its a look at what luffy would be without the messiah df
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wanna bet the ancient kingdom fell because davy was forced to kill his own people too
 
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Really weird tbh how Garp chujo has no clue where his son (who is only 17 at this time btw) is being stationed
He throws his grandson into a forest with monster animals in it lol. Lets not ignore the fact that Garp is still an abusive shit to his progeny XD

It does not surprise me he has no idea what Dragon is doing
 
Garp trained his haki fist to beat Chinjao meanwhile here he could defeat domi reversed Xebec .

Is Chinjao a Yonko level Pirate on same leagues as Rocks . @RayanOO @Tyki_Mikk folks ?
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He thought he could tap into ladies if he grew like Freddie Mercury . At least he tapped a lady before he died .
Chinjao in relation to Garp

Yep, either Chinjao is way under appreciated or Oda is being inconsistent. The protector of the complete marines took intense training to just shrink Chinjao’s head.
 
I'm pretty sure the future Roger flashback will flesh out Xebec and their relation, same as this one fleshed out Kaido and co.

Garp cared too, and it looks like the three of them had a backstory. Roger offered Garp to join him... If they had been successful in turning Xebec back, he would have offered him too I'm sure.

Roger's flashback will be one of the last and one of the longest I think.
Pretty sure there is no reason for a Roger flashback
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Stop thinking too much gaijin.

You are supposed to turn off your brain when reading this manga desu.

L argument
 
Pretty sure there is no reason for a Roger flashback
I think there is...

Textually : Why did he want to turn the world upside down ? What did he know about the world before god valley ? And after ? Who was Rouge ? What was the dream he shared with Luffy ? Did he inherit Joyboy's will ?

Metatextually : Oden's flashback was the first time we saw Roger for an extended time, and Oda had to hide a lot. This time, he showed more but still not the whole picture... He showed Roger begging, he showed him simping, he needs to show him adventuring and winning. This flashback will show us Joyboy but just a tease. And then we'll get Joyboy's flashback to tie it all. (And another one for Luffy I guess...)
 
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