Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Gol D. Roger

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Garp is a morally empty bum. Him being equal to Roger (which was kinda obvious) simply downscales Roger

Building hunter is a piece of shit
Garp being morally empty is up for debate. Even if he is, that doesn't make his status as a competent fighter questionable. Garp being Roger's equal, which he isn't, does indeed elevate Garp IMO. It's not like he was far below Roger before all of this. He was always projected as someone strong enough to match Roger in a fight, with Roger being the clear winner.
 
Is it just me or oda had a brain fart and mistakenly added marco defeating kyou but then just changed it to his dad lmao maybe im thinking too much
Thats what i thought lol
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Garp being portrayed as Roger dead equal is already catching bodies :milaugh:
For context this is a french (of course) dude with a massive anti-marine and anti-Mihawk agenda
tbh in this case its always from "that" Shanks or Luffy fans:suresure:
 
Them and the people acting intelligent now that they've been proven wrong, the same people that never defended Garp when he was getting slandered.
Outside of trolling posts, Garp was slandered for his moral stance (which Is Oda's fault and it's due to how comically evil he made the WG now).

However, no one really doubted he was on par with Roger or at worst slightly weaker siche that was what we were explicitly told.
 

Gol D. Roger

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Crazy how non-prime Garp was strong enough to take down Domi-Rocks along with Roger, yet when his peak version teamed up with Sengoku to take down Shiki, they still allowed half the MF to be destroyed. Shiki was probably the strongest after Roger, WB and Rocks.
 
Outside of trolling posts, Garp was slandered for his moral stance (which Is Oda's fault and it's due to how comically evil he made the WG now).

However, no one really doubted he was on par with Roger or at worst slightly weaker siche that was what we were explicitly told.
tbh if people doubt Garp capability its their own war that they must win lol
I hate Garp cuz of his character, not his strength
been hating since Ace died
 
Garp being morally empty is up for debate. Even if he is, that doesn't make his status as a competent fighter questionable. Garp being Roger's equal, which he isn't, does indeed elevate Garp IMO. It's not like he was far below Roger before all of this. He was always projected as someone strong enough to match Roger in a fight, with Roger being the clear winner.
I really can't envision how Oda could be more clear about Garp and Roger being on par.
 
i don't think even akainu is gonna bat for the wg in the final war

it's coming


Elbaf mural notwithstanding, you have to wonder how many factions there'll be EOS.

(1) Nika + allied nations on one side---------vs--------- (2) IMU & WG on the other

but, I see fractures internally, as well:
(3) BB is the third faction coming from the pirate world, both opposing IMU and being completely incompatible with Luffy's ideology;
(4) SWORD comprises the "good guys" within the Marine;
-- (4.5) but I expect Akainu's own faction to rise up as extremist marines who want neither devil-Gorosei nor pirates to dictate the law;
(5) then you have CG which will want to take down IMU & WG, but also replace the Marine, and beat the SHs to the OP treasure;
(6) and the Revs will support Nika and the allied nations, as well as (possibly) SWORD, but will want the WG toppled, Akainu removed, and the CG neutered.

It's a lot to juggle for just one or two final arcs.
:Think:
 

Gol D. Roger

ȶɦɛ քɨʀǟȶɛ ӄɨռɢ
Crazy how non-prime Garp was strong enough to take down Domi-Rocks along with Roger, yet his peak version teamed up with Sengoku to take down Shiki and still allowed half the MF to be destroyed. Shiki was probably the strongest after Roger, WB and Rocks.
 
Crazy how non-prime Garp was strong enough to take down Domi-Rocks along with Roger, yet his peak version teamed up with Sengoku to take down Shiki and still allowed half the MF to be destroyed. Shiki was probably the strongest after Roger, WB and Rocks.
Killing an honest father trying to defend his wife and child mentally nerfed Garp for life.


/s
 
Supporting the Marines through the genocide games is obviously extremely immoral and everything, but tbh, I'm not sure why people are hung up on the Ace thing. I mean, it's immoral in it's own way, but nothing that crazy on Garps part, I don't think.
 
It's possible only Rocks has the COC barrior, which would explain why he could become top 1 in verse, I guess.

Isn't it kind of lame that all these guys learn the haki shit through battles, while Luffy has Sensei Rayleigh taking him aside for class?
We never seen Zoro Do Full Body Armament or CoA Barrier and he do it offscreen against King Explosion
I blame Oda for not explaining shii:gokulaugh:
 

Gol D. Roger

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Outside of trolling posts, Garp was slandered for his moral stance (which Is Oda's fault and it's due to how comically evil he made the WG now).

However, no one really doubted he was on par with Roger or at worst slightly weaker siche that was what we were explicitly told.
That was peeps slandering him for the sake of it. But a lot of people started questioning his standing when it was revealed he had to train to defeat Chinjao. His defeat at Pirate Island fueled these arguments further.
 
Supporting the Marines through the genocide games is obviously extremely immoral and everything, but tbh, I'm not sure why people are hung up on the Ace thing. I mean, it's immoral in it's own way, but nothing that crazy on Garps part, I don't think.
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