Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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@Tyki_Mikk is like a clueless child who thinks whatever looks the flashiest is automatically stronger. And now that this isn’t happening for the characters he used to put all his faith in — since Garp and Roger didn’t do anything actually impressive in terms of DC feats — he’s clearly coping. He demands DC and flashy feats from Oden, but stays quiet about Roger not having any. LMAO.😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

Let me rub some more salt in your wound, man: even the KKG in Dressrosa used to finish off Doffy is more impressive in DC than Garp and Roger’s so-called “final attacks.”

Flame Dragon Torch, Hakai, Bajrang Gun, Law’s final attack — my god, these are so far above that it’s not even a comparison. It’s actually disrespectful to even compare them to that pathetic G3 from Garp. 😭 😭
Yeah agree @Tyki_Mikk is a bum
 
@Tyki_Mikk is like a clueless child who thinks whatever looks the flashiest is automatically stronger. And now that this isn’t happening for the characters he used to put all his faith in — since Garp and Roger didn’t do anything actually impressive in terms of DC feats — he’s clearly coping. He demands DC and flashy feats from Oden, but stays quiet about Roger not having any. LMAO.😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

Let me rub some more salt in your wound, man: even the KKG in Dressrosa used to finish off Doffy is more impressive in DC than Garp and Roger’s so-called “final attacks.”

Flame Dragon Torch, Hakai, Bajrang Gun, Law’s final attack — my god, these are so far above that it’s not even a comparison. It’s actually disrespectful to even compare them to that pathetic G3 from Garp. 😭 😭
what if all the legends are just like Fishman Island luffy level but just has been getting carried by garp's Haki Handbook and actually knows the ins and outs about it

im pretty sure the difference between the old era and the new era is just a knowledge gap
 
We don’t care

You are judging things out of the story, from a reader critic point of view

but in the story, the character Oda created, Roger is written to be at the top
it's extremely ironic that you said that lol

If oda wanted to portray dodger as the top one, all he had to do was make dodger beat meme to get her pone. That's it.

That alone would have done wonders for his portrayal.

But what did oda do? He made dodger steal the meme pone by sneaking like a bitch lmao.
 
Well, Dr. Xebec's Haki > Roger's.

So when he pierced him with that Haki and there was no scar, it means it wasn't deep enough. Therefore, we can attribute this to the fact that the attack didn't have enough power, even though it was coated in Haki stronger than Roger's.

Xebec pierced Kaido, and then hit him to push him away.
In this chapter he also hits Roger with his hands and he is visibly very affected by it; I don't see any difference in the attacks, and yet the 21-year-old Kaido was fine.

After breaking Xebec’s Haki barrier, an attack with the power of a G3, G4, or even an OKG can knock him out, because he’s not some endurance god. After breaking Kaidou’s Haki barrier, you need the attack power of a punch the size of an island — the strongest attack in the entire series so far — just to knock the guy out when he’s already on his last legs. The difference here is like heaven and earth.

That's why I'll never buy into the idea that Garp and Roger's final attacks could defeat Kaido; they don't have AP, and Xebec, after the Haki barrier, is a guy with low resistance and a fragile body.
But how did pre ACoC Zoro with a crushed skeleton leave a scar on prime Kaido?
 
It’s not that complicated it’s a shonen and a classic one

Roger was introduced to us as the Pirate King, as the one who started the story, the one who found the One piece (the title of the story)

and he is the goal of the MC (or the second main goal wherever)

Luffy is yelling « I want to be Pirate King » every time he can and he wants to find the ultimate treasure the One Piece and be the freest pirate on the sea

Roger is on top, no doubt about that

And yeah nobody elected Roger but : Garp glazed Roger, WB glazed Roger, Shiki glazed Roger, Kaido glazed Roger, the whole WG glazed Roger giving him that worldwide execution and wanting to eradicate his offsprings etc etc

Even Xebec respected Roger

Roger is that guy

it is completely Oda fault that Roger character execution is quite bad and we have that kind of debate but the truth is Roger is written to be that guy, even if the writinh is bad
that was how you wrote until Kaido killed luffy at rooftop and that shit been resurrected goofy .. roger has been thrown into trash bin and his place been replaced with soyboy / nika .. now at every island there are worshipers of nika and slaves instead of people who say how goofy resembles roger
 
But how did pre ACoC Zoro with a crushed skeleton leave a scar on prime Kaido?

Zoro had Kaido's kryptonite, Enma, and Zoro is one of the guys from the new generation who has been said twice as the only ones capable of defeating Kaido.

How come Dr. Xebec, with a Haki far superior to Zoro's and in perfect physical condition, can't leave any scars on Kaido, man?
A 21-year-old Kaido who is less resilient, I don't think he even knew how to coat himself in Haki.


Let's make the situation worse: how is it that the guy with the strongest Haki of the old generation, capable of splitting the skies single-handedly, with Haki superior to Roger's and Garp's, using a sword, stabs Kaido with that same Haki, and that attack isn't even deep enough to leave a scar on 21-year-old Kaido, who couldn't even (probably) coat himself in Acoc Haki?
 
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