Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1168: ELBAF'S SNOW
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I believe the message Oda wants to send through this backstory was "over relying on one thing is bad". And that Harald should've balanced between a peaceful route and military might.
The chapter subtly hinted that Ida actually was a little concerned about Harald going overboard with his peaceful route:
And In the very same chapter Saul also further showed this doubt:
I wouldn't really consider Harald a "bad" character. He is bad in the sense of choosing bad choices, but he served his central role in this backstory as a scapegoat so that readers can realize there's absolutely no way to "coexist" with the World Government if not a literal slave, setting the endgame war to take it down.
Throughout 800 years all Elbaph's kings were probably ruthless warriors, then Harald came and changed it but leaned too much towards the opposite side of power.
@Elder Lee Hung All in all? Loki will be the first Elbaph king ever to rule with a balance of peace and power.
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @PuckTheGreat @Bogard @Paperchampion23 @SakazOuki @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Topi Jerami @ZenZu @nik87 @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @MarineHQ @HA001
The chapter subtly hinted that Ida actually was a little concerned about Harald going overboard with his peaceful route:
And In the very same chapter Saul also further showed this doubt:
I wouldn't really consider Harald a "bad" character. He is bad in the sense of choosing bad choices, but he served his central role in this backstory as a scapegoat so that readers can realize there's absolutely no way to "coexist" with the World Government if not a literal slave, setting the endgame war to take it down.
Throughout 800 years all Elbaph's kings were probably ruthless warriors, then Harald came and changed it but leaned too much towards the opposite side of power.
@Elder Lee Hung All in all? Loki will be the first Elbaph king ever to rule with a balance of peace and power.
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @PuckTheGreat @Bogard @Paperchampion23 @SakazOuki @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Topi Jerami @ZenZu @nik87 @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @MarineHQ @HA001
A little idealism is never wrong, but don't be naive and overdo it. Don't sell out your national identity.
I believe the message Oda wants to send through this backstory was "over relying on one thing is bad". And that Harald should've balanced between a peaceful route and military might.
The chapter subtly hinted that Ida actually was a little concerned about Harald going overboard with his peaceful route:
And In the very same chapter Saul also further showed this doubt:
I wouldn't really consider Harald a "bad" character. He is bad in the sense of choosing bad choices, but he served his central role in this backstory as a scapegoat so that readers can realize there's absolutely no way to "coexist" with the World Government if not a literal slave, setting the endgame war to take it down.
Throughout 800 years all Elbaph's kings were probably ruthless warriors, then Harald came and changed it but leaned too much towards the opposite side of power.
@Elder Lee Hung All in all? Loki will be the first Elbaph king ever to rule with a balance of peace and power.
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @PuckTheGreat @Bogard @Paperchampion23 @SakazOuki @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Topi Jerami @ZenZu @nik87 @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @MarineHQ @HA001
The chapter subtly hinted that Ida actually was a little concerned about Harald going overboard with his peaceful route:
And In the very same chapter Saul also further showed this doubt:
I wouldn't really consider Harald a "bad" character. He is bad in the sense of choosing bad choices, but he served his central role in this backstory as a scapegoat so that readers can realize there's absolutely no way to "coexist" with the World Government if not a literal slave, setting the endgame war to take it down.
Throughout 800 years all Elbaph's kings were probably ruthless warriors, then Harald came and changed it but leaned too much towards the opposite side of power.
@Elder Lee Hung All in all? Loki will be the first Elbaph king ever to rule with a balance of peace and power.
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @PuckTheGreat @Bogard @Paperchampion23 @SakazOuki @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Topi Jerami @ZenZu @nik87 @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @MarineHQ @HA001
Harald's death is a great loss to Elbaf and future Luffy's alias.
Loki, Jarul made sure his name, respect, efforts didn't go in vain by not exposing his last mistake and what he turned before death.
Loki took all the blame on himself to save his dad.
I wish Loki to fight along side Luffy against Imu and avenge Imu for his dad.
Loki, Jarul made sure his name, respect, efforts didn't go in vain by not exposing his last mistake and what he turned before death.
Loki took all the blame on himself to save his dad.
I wish Loki to fight along side Luffy against Imu and avenge Imu for his dad.
V. Nusjuro used to be even hotter than Vinsmoke Romeo and was slaying puss in Asura for days, and then, sudden onset male patterned baldness.
Joy Boy saw him, and said, "OLD MAN YOU'RE BALDER THAN A BABY, HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Imu promised V. Nusjuro that he would shave the D, and someday restore hair to all bald men, once Imu's World was complete.
Most tragic backstory.
Joy Boy saw him, and said, "OLD MAN YOU'RE BALDER THAN A BABY, HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Imu promised V. Nusjuro that he would shave the D, and someday restore hair to all bald men, once Imu's World was complete.
Most tragic backstory.
The thing that interest me the most about Harald that I never see others bring up is that Harald HAD the ability to see the future.
Harald predicted his son killing him before Loki was born.
Am I supposed to believe that's it? The only prophecy he ever had? Was Harald on a Toki/Shyarly level, or what? How much of the future did Harald predict?
It's entirely possible Rocks told Harald the truth, and Harald still chose to join the WG for the sake of Elbaph's future, because he already knew what his death would consist of.
So, in this scenario, Harald was really the one playing Imu, and trusted his Sons/Elbaph to take up his mantle after he died.
This explains Harald's behavior a lot more, IMO.
Harald predicted his son killing him before Loki was born.
Am I supposed to believe that's it? The only prophecy he ever had? Was Harald on a Toki/Shyarly level, or what? How much of the future did Harald predict?
It's entirely possible Rocks told Harald the truth, and Harald still chose to join the WG for the sake of Elbaph's future, because he already knew what his death would consist of.
So, in this scenario, Harald was really the one playing Imu, and trusted his Sons/Elbaph to take up his mantle after he died.
This explains Harald's behavior a lot more, IMO.
