Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1182: ZAZA
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Like I said Oda is to blame, he has always made his fandom believe in fake hype and rumours, where the one time a character does not have fake hype and rumours on his side the fandom is confused.
That's basically your complaint, Loki has all the tangible feats and statements but Oda did not give him the fake hype and rumours he usually gives his top tiers. (2.8 bil bounty, captured by Shanks, instead of WSM and WSC titles along with 4+ bil bounties).
This is why you awkwardly have Loki above BM and Blackbeard but below Whitebeard, you don't even know how to make sense of it. He's either above them all or below them all there is no weird middle ground here. That's not how this character is written.
That's basically your complaint, Loki has all the tangible feats and statements but Oda did not give him the fake hype and rumours he usually gives his top tiers. (2.8 bil bounty, captured by Shanks, instead of WSM and WSC titles along with 4+ bil bounties).
This is why you awkwardly have Loki above BM and Blackbeard but below Whitebeard, you don't even know how to make sense of it. He's either above them all or below them all there is no weird middle ground here. That's not how this character is written.
Don't you think there's a difference between those examples though? We're 20 years deeper into the story, there's not really a reason to believe you'll get something better than fighting the King of the world and stopping the immortal version of a Rocks rival like Harald.
Unless you get full on aliens like Nardo, but I don't really think we'll see many characters on Imu or above, Oda can barely take 5 mins of a break from humiliating his villains.
It's not like Oda can literally do bait and switch for another 30 years, at some point OP wraps up
Unless you get full on aliens like Nardo, but I don't really think we'll see many characters on Imu or above, Oda can barely take 5 mins of a break from humiliating his villains.
It's not like Oda can literally do bait and switch for another 30 years, at some point OP wraps up
Great chapter .
Loki still winning and no hybrid mode yet not to mention no awakening and still this strong.
Zaza is awesome and nice to see Oda still can draw beautiful panels.
I am glad books are safe and Gerd fingers are attached back. Cool small details from Oda showing us that.
Super Sommers cool as always.
Sadly I am losing interest for this site with those constant breaks.
Loki still winning and no hybrid mode yet not to mention no awakening and still this strong.
Zaza is awesome and nice to see Oda still can draw beautiful panels.
I am glad books are safe and Gerd fingers are attached back. Cool small details from Oda showing us that.
Super Sommers cool as always.
Sadly I am losing interest for this site with those constant breaks.
"If you should undo these chains that bind me up, I'll offer to completely eliminate one pirate crew of your choosing."
This line goes hard especially after seeing how strong this guy is. He was for real, he really could wipe out even a Yonkou crew off the map lmfao. He is out there fighting the king of the world himself😂
The Rocks pirates and Roger legit couldn't do anything to Imu in the flashback, how powerful are Loki's blows?
This line goes hard especially after seeing how strong this guy is. He was for real, he really could wipe out even a Yonkou crew off the map lmfao. He is out there fighting the king of the world himself😂
The Rocks pirates and Roger legit couldn't do anything to Imu in the flashback, how powerful are Loki's blows?
Usually this line of argument ends up in people ending up finding solace by bashing Oda. I will enjoy that inevitable ending.
Baffles my mind that people can’t do basic pattern recognition over a sample data of 1100+ chapters.
Hope isn’t really an argument. What sits on the other side of that panel is an old man trapped with his habits. There things that he can’t change, be it his compulsive need to write and create a bazillion new filler characters to sustain his story or his bait and switch tactics. Circumstances anf excuse may change, the core remains the same.
Baffles my mind that people can’t do basic pattern recognition over a sample data of 1100+ chapters.
Hope isn’t really an argument. What sits on the other side of that panel is an old man trapped with his habits. There things that he can’t change, be it his compulsive need to write and create a bazillion new filler characters to sustain his story or his bait and switch tactics. Circumstances anf excuse may change, the core remains the same.
Gotta agree with @ZenZu
While ultimately I think @Shikoku has a point, and Oda is a hype merchant, and i think Loki will also be powercrept at some point by other good guy characters:
What the fuck is Roja and co ever gonna fight to show they are superior to this injured version of Loki? We already saw anyone worth their salt fighting God Valley, which was confirmed by the narrator as the biggest event:
We know they never went against imu
We know Rocks went out basically undefeated in 1vs1 ever
And after that, the only gas worth it was WB and Roja smashing their weapons together and splitting clouds
Is "true prime roja" gonna fight the force ghost of joyboy on elbaf? Cause thats the only cope that make sense
Kaido and co. are already out and cemented; they are not worth talking about
While ultimately I think @Shikoku has a point, and Oda is a hype merchant, and i think Loki will also be powercrept at some point by other good guy characters:
What the fuck is Roja and co ever gonna fight to show they are superior to this injured version of Loki? We already saw anyone worth their salt fighting God Valley, which was confirmed by the narrator as the biggest event:
We know they never went against imu
We know Rocks went out basically undefeated in 1vs1 ever
And after that, the only gas worth it was WB and Roja smashing their weapons together and splitting clouds
Is "true prime roja" gonna fight the force ghost of joyboy on elbaf? Cause thats the only cope that make sense
Kaido and co. are already out and cemented; they are not worth talking about
Ironically Loki's bounty got explained by the fact he did a reverse Harald; he targeted WG assets while staying hidden in the mist and they only found who he was after investigation (hence why his bounty is a special WG one, cause likely no marine directly encountered him).
Until a few chapters ago Imu/WG literally didn't know he was Nidhogg nor that he killed Harald.
Oda did this to justify why someone as powerful as Loki was never mentioned until Elbaf exept for one instance during WCI, but fans are so used to powerful character = massive reputation they can't compute.
Until a few chapters ago Imu/WG literally didn't know he was Nidhogg nor that he killed Harald.
Oda did this to justify why someone as powerful as Loki was never mentioned until Elbaf exept for one instance during WCI, but fans are so used to powerful character = massive reputation they can't compute.
Those bazillion filler characters aren't going to end up being that strong though? I mean, it's not like OP is suddenly DBZ despite having powercreep. Loki is the first character besides Imu to clearly be above the emperors and admirals. Unless you believe there's high top tier level characters just chilling on...idk, lodestar, I don't understand how you can conceive of several characters being stronger than Loki ATP.
As it is, we have an entire new faction of characters(The Gods Knights) who haven't even necessarily proven themselves to be above Katakuri, who Luffy defeated like a decade ago, lmfao.
As it is, we have an entire new faction of characters(The Gods Knights) who haven't even necessarily proven themselves to be above Katakuri, who Luffy defeated like a decade ago, lmfao.
