Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1182: ZAZA

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It seems clear that Killingham is fighting Sanji so except if Oda introduce an antagonist that we did not see yet, Zoro is fighting Super Super Sommers. Especially after Luffy’s declaration and Zoro being intrigued by his metal heart.
The real question is how Zoro will be able to stop Super Super Sommers definitely? Because nor Rayleigh neither Gaban or Luffy or Loki were able to put him down for good and all of them were using Adv CoC.
That should be a major hype moment for Zoro, no one could defeat Super Sommers for good despite using Adv CoC.

And that was just regular Super Sommers, Zoro will be fighting Omen Super Sommers, so Zoro putting him down for good would be a great hype moment for him.
 
Perhaps this will be left for the end of the arc or post-arc, with Oda showing the reader why Shanks wasn't present in Elbaph, which is a very valid question but for some reason the fandom forgot. He's busy with Teach, and will probably be defeated somehow, perhaps with the power of a God, a power known to his family and which belonged to Davy Jones.
To be honest, looking at God Valley, we might get some clues about the future of the gods in the story. The Davy clan could bring the lore of the God of Earth, and the rocky, split terrain of God Valley could be indicative of that. Incidentally, the terrain of God Valley resembles the terrain of the Redline.
Rocks was not a name chosen at random.
 
Perhaps this will be left for the end of the arc or post-arc, with Oda showing the reader why Shanks wasn't present in Elbaph, which is a very valid question but for some reason the fandom forgot. He's busy with Teach, and will probably be defeated somehow, perhaps with the power of a God, a power known to his family and which belonged to Davy Jones.
Yea almost forgot Teach is heavily connected to the flashback and on the wanted bounty poster next to Luffy and Shirahoshi. Ok end of the arc then, I also don't see Killingham creating Earth God when Rain God is active.
 
god, the overreaction 💀 can’t wait for the introduction hype to run out
I don't understand how you can be saying this when Loki has the achievements to back him up.
He:
Instantly tamed Ragnir, which should at least be top commander level or more, is very connected to the lore of the story
Stopped Holy Knight Harald
Fought Imu(which was something Xebec/Roger explicitly knew they could never do)
Is basically the version of Harald Xebec wanted to ally with, and now Luffy can ally with that guy to actually take down Imu.
 
Bro....get Roger past Imu's pet DR Xebec or HK Harald. We are talking about a character who can maul the those characters. That one swing that bled Imu and has him still huffing and coughing could erase them in one attack, those are characters that Roger can't even defeat.

This cannot be overstated.
sure, I won’t mention how DR is hax so Loki not being affected by it isnt saying much or make other excuses, Ill just outright admit by conventional scaling Loki looks impressive but Oda just straight out sucks at powerscaling, it’s simple as that

Off-brand Roger, Shanks, will prolly be portrayed above Loki once the arc is over
 
I don't understand how you can be saying this when Loki has the achievements to back him up.
He:
Instantly tamed Ragnir, which should at least be top commander level or more, is very connected to the lore of the story
Stopped Holy Knight Harald
Fought Imu(which was something Xebec/Roger explicitly knew they could never do)
Is basically the version of Harald Xebec wanted to ally with, and now Luffy can ally with that guy to actually take down Imu.
short term hype… it’s like saying Kaido is EASILY above the admirals and mihawk and whoever else struggled with YC when Kaido oneshotted a YC (post Katakuri Luffy) after the

sooner or later the hype runs out and suddenly it’s back to reality

even aside of that, how did Shanks stop this god tier character that is apparently „far far out of reach of roger“…
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
People are not understanding the magnitude of this fight.

That the swings Loki is taking rn, are capable of one shotting top tiers. This is on another lvl entirely.

Something like togen totsuka is capable of flooring Kaidou leaving him one hit away from defeat.

This attack from Loki is eviscerating every top tier we know.


And before that it's these swings.


Meanwhile Loki is bouncing back from Omen nukes and that Giant Omen blade attacks. I hope y'all understand that each and everyone of these attacks is magnitudes stronger than Togen Totsuka like tiers above that.

Every swing Loki has taken so far is capable of bodying a top tier in a single blow. As for Imu need I remind you 3 small bullets had Zoro lying on the floor helpless. Scale up to what Imu has been dishing out and you'll start to understand this is not a battle for even guys like Roger, Garp or Kaidou.
 
sure, I won’t mention how DR is hax so Loki not being affected by it isnt saying much or make other excuses, Ill just outright admit by conventional scaling Loki looks impressive but Oda just straight out sucks at powerscaling, it’s simple as that

Off-brand Roger, Shanks, will prolly be portrayed above Loki once the arc is over
Shanks couldn't even overpower sick old WB's haki where as loki in base clashed with imu who's haki is confirmed to be >>>Shanks's by both gaban and luffy.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
sure, I won’t mention how DR is hax so Loki not being affected by it isnt saying much or make other excuses, Ill just outright admit by conventional scaling Loki looks impressive but Oda just straight out sucks at powerscaling, it’s simple as that

Off-brand Roger, Shanks, will prolly be portrayed above Loki once the arc is over
Oda is desperately trying to tell his readers Loki is far stronger than RogerBeard. He dedicated an entire flashback to show this. He built up Harald and Xebec as Garp/ Roger lvl characters....and then gave them buffs so that they comfortably surpass Garp and Roger, to the point it takes two top tiers to even hope to deal with them.

And then he had Loki stand atop of that heirarchy.

Like multiple statements and feats, like he had Gaban outright state that HK Harald is above Whitebeard and Garp, and then Loki has backed up all of these statements.

And now Imu himself was stated to be above any haki Gaban has ever witnessed or felt. I don't know what Oda can possibly do that can make it more obvious.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
just for the record so I can properly quote you once either of us gets humbled later in the arc/saga, what’s you specific placing of Loki?

If I read your posts correctly, he is Top 2 rn, correct?

@soupongo @ZenZu
Without a shadow of a doubt he is top 2. That's not even a question to me.

However I will say this. There is a chance, a very slim one but a chance that some mid gen top tiers are just a lot stronger than the old gen top tiers.

At the very least Loki is > the entire old gen. And not by a small margin. That much Oda has already put way too much effort into telling us, for me to just dismiss.
 
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