Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1182: ZAZA
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I mean, Kaido one shotting g4 Luffy was impressive, but at that point we didn't necessarily have a perspective of what is possible for top tiers to do, while we have a much better idea now.... and it does seem like fighting Imu is out of reach for top tiers.
I imagine Shanks got some sort of situational advantage, perhaps not by his own wrongdoing, could be something as dumb as Shiki getting owned by a storm while trying to fight Roger.
I think so, yeah. Blackbeard is the wildcard tho I guess.
I imagine Shanks got some sort of situational advantage, perhaps not by his own wrongdoing, could be something as dumb as Shiki getting owned by a storm while trying to fight Roger.
I think so, yeah. Blackbeard is the wildcard tho I guess.
That doesn't even make sense. Like I said you're just waving off every single thing Oda wrote. You can't just dismiss all that effort Oda put into Loki > Old Gen. What's even the point of reading the manga? At this point just open up a fanfic version of One Piece. It's just odd to me, like one or two things can be a coincidence. Are we like 10+ coincidences in now? How long are we gonna drag this? What would it take at this point for Oda to convince people how strong Loki is in relation to those guys? He's pretty much done it as directly as you possibly can do it in One Piece terms. I've never seen Oda put this much effort into scaling a character above others. Dedicated an entire flashback of pure power scaling to it. And he continues to do so in the current timeline.
As for where I have Loki it's this. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...26-chapter-1181-tier-list.81751/#post-6695432
As for where I have Loki it's this. https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...26-chapter-1181-tier-list.81751/#post-6695432
the ad hominem aside, for starters he could not get his god tier character be stopped by, and I quote „red hair shanks“, not „red hair pirates“ & even if that was the case, people above a tier aren’t usually defeated by the rubble below even if they group up, e.g. Kaido vs the scabbards, Akainu vs the WBP
but sure, you stated your placement clearly and sooner or later one of us takes a big fat L
I believe it’s foolish to believe Oda‘s hype, he always does that crap with a fast track to irrelevancy after he finished playing with the new shiny toy
but sure, you stated your placement clearly and sooner or later one of us takes a big fat L
I believe it’s foolish to believe Oda‘s hype, he always does that crap with a fast track to irrelevancy after he finished playing with the new shiny toy
Would be funny if Luffy does not even get a proper 1 vs 1 with Imu after all this yapping about he's going to massively outperform Loki somehow.
Which is fully possible. If Imu is mean to get defeated by Luffy in a later arc, then Luffy simply can't do much here as Oda always tend to make major villains look overwhelming in comparison to Luffy at first.
Which is fully possible. If Imu is mean to get defeated by Luffy in a later arc, then Luffy simply can't do much here as Oda always tend to make major villains look overwhelming in comparison to Luffy at first.
This time it's not actually hype. Oda is tangibly showing us.
Loki is the anti hype rumour character. That's actually where the disconnect is. He's a 2.8 bil bounty, he was stated to be captured by Shanks. He has negative traditional One Piece hype.
One Piece fans are used to empty hype, with no real feats or accomplishments by said characters.
Loki is all real. Oda for the first time is showing us real tangible feats and portrayal and not fake hype. He is catching bodies and performing feats that put Imu on notice and away from Elbaf.
Heck even look at how this battle is drawn between Imu and Loki. Keep in mind how lazy Oda is with battles.
We have seen top tiers fight before in Luffy vs Kaidou and DR Xebec vs Garp and Roger. And that stuff looks like child's play compared to the sheer power and scale of this battle. It's like we're actually witnessing a top tier battle for the first time. These guys are redefining what the top tier is. If these are top tiers then the Luffy vs Kaidou battle cannot be.
You just aren't able to grasp what is going on because Oda has lulled his fanbase into believing rumours and fake hype over tangible hype and feats. This is the first time ever Oda is operating properly, it's sad but I don't even blame the fans Oda has conditioned y'all the wrong way. Any other mangaka and this wouldn't even be a discussion rn.
Loki is the anti hype rumour character. That's actually where the disconnect is. He's a 2.8 bil bounty, he was stated to be captured by Shanks. He has negative traditional One Piece hype.
One Piece fans are used to empty hype, with no real feats or accomplishments by said characters.
Loki is all real. Oda for the first time is showing us real tangible feats and portrayal and not fake hype. He is catching bodies and performing feats that put Imu on notice and away from Elbaf.
Heck even look at how this battle is drawn between Imu and Loki. Keep in mind how lazy Oda is with battles.
We have seen top tiers fight before in Luffy vs Kaidou and DR Xebec vs Garp and Roger. And that stuff looks like child's play compared to the sheer power and scale of this battle. It's like we're actually witnessing a top tier battle for the first time. These guys are redefining what the top tier is. If these are top tiers then the Luffy vs Kaidou battle cannot be.
You just aren't able to grasp what is going on because Oda has lulled his fanbase into believing rumours and fake hype over tangible hype and feats. This is the first time ever Oda is operating properly, it's sad but I don't even blame the fans Oda has conditioned y'all the wrong way. Any other mangaka and this wouldn't even be a discussion rn.
People are not understanding the magnitude of this fight.
That the swings Loki is taking rn, are capable of one shotting top tiers. This is on another lvl entirely.
Something like togen totsuka is capable of flooring Kaidou leaving him one hit away from defeat.
This attack from Loki is eviscerating every top tier we know.
And before that it's these swings.
Meanwhile Loki is bouncing back from Omen nukes and that Giant Omen blade attacks. I hope y'all understand that each and everyone of these attacks is magnitudes stronger than Togen Totsuka like tiers above that.
Every swing Loki has taken so far is capable of bodying a top tier in a single blow. As for Imu need I remind you 3 small bullets had Zoro lying on the floor helpless. Scale up to what Imu has been dishing out and you'll start to understand this is not a battle for even guys like Roger, Garp or Kaidou.
That the swings Loki is taking rn, are capable of one shotting top tiers. This is on another lvl entirely.
Something like togen totsuka is capable of flooring Kaidou leaving him one hit away from defeat.
This attack from Loki is eviscerating every top tier we know.
And before that it's these swings.
Meanwhile Loki is bouncing back from Omen nukes and that Giant Omen blade attacks. I hope y'all understand that each and everyone of these attacks is magnitudes stronger than Togen Totsuka like tiers above that.
Every swing Loki has taken so far is capable of bodying a top tier in a single blow. As for Imu need I remind you 3 small bullets had Zoro lying on the floor helpless. Scale up to what Imu has been dishing out and you'll start to understand this is not a battle for even guys like Roger, Garp or Kaidou.
It is just big mom and kaido feats look unimpressive due lack of island feats casual. Kaido final.move is finally island level feat but it is last ditch move. Even GV flashback, none of them.show island level feats easily like old garp.
Ironically Loki and Imu show what real top tiers should happen due island feats at pre timeskip l feats. Punk hazard is off screen sneak peak.
