Spoiler One Piece Chapter 971 Spoilers Discussion

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Its kinda hinted sengoku wants akainu to have force in wano. Well see Ryokogyu in action.

I would say Green bull is very interesting choice ? Drake will ally with luffy so he'll convince other marine force to join samurais cause or i see heavuly defeat for samurai+mink +law kid alliance .

Yonkos have their own army , orochi has like 40,000 reserve battlion and with unlimited soldier big mom can create with her df.

Itll be bigger war than marineford . If marines do not interfere i doubt luffy can win this alone.
I'd still prefer to see the marines not being on the same side than Luffy and the other supernovas (with the exception of X-Drake) plus I feel that Kaido and Big Mom are going to be separated from each other or that BM may get another mental crisis or O-Lin time.
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony


Oda’s taking this piece and cranking it up to eleven. And I figured he wouldn’t gloss over this sequence. This is essentially what the entire flashbacks been leading up to. These are likely also where Oden imparts his last wishes to his retainers. He basically told them nothing for the past 5 years, but now that he’s in literally his final hour, he’s gonna trust them with the task of opening the borders and helping to fulfill what he learned at Laugh Tale.
 
I love it when the Firetank pirates get more on-screen action than Sanji during the year of Sanji.

One Piece is a mastah piece.
Idk that is good thing when taking Ls in their cover story while Sanji taking Ws in the arc and not doing much to others. Though will say they getting more spotlight than the headcannon 'Zoro's Arc' certain fans try to push.

Gotta love Oda's work ;)!
 
Gotta wait. We havent got detailed spoilers yet though. We have no idea what were the other reason as well. We know there was deal about ship i believe this really peaked my interest.

I certainly feel you are judging the spoilers kinda fast.
“He believes the promise between the two of them!! That when the ship(s) is/are completed...5 years later they/we(?) will set sail from this country.”
“Him dancing naked was to save the people that was captured when he got into the Orochi castle , the deal was he can save 100 lives per dance”
Those are the reasons. And they utter BS.
 
So this was the incredibly amazing reason to justify why Oden trusted the known liar and trickster Orochi, refused to fight for his country when they needed him most, danced naked in the streets for half a decade adding further insult to his people whilst they starved, were executed and forced into labour? Only to attack ANYWAY simply to lose because he left it too long...

It's almost as if the stankiness of this plot point could be smelt from its very creation. It's almost as if people were justified to call trash out on the spot knowing there was zero possible way there could be any satisfactory explanation. But it seems like Oda didn't even try and simply used a generic "tHeY HaD hOsTaGeS" excuse, and for Oden to legitimately believe that Orochi, from the Kurozumi clan that strived for so long to rule Wano, would simply up and leave if Oden gave him a strip tease...I really don't know what to say lmfaooooo. :suresure::suresure:

Fairly hard to argue that there is a character worse than Oden post timeskip. What a mistake his entire existence was...
I also agree, a cool panel can't undo the stupidity Oden showed. Not only did he abondon his responsibility to Wano n its people when they needed him the most, he did the same again when he returned. While he danced, thousands did hard labour, hunger and some even got killed.
When so much at stake, he didn't think through what if Kaidou n Orochi were lying and had no Backup plan in action?
And then simply head on went to face Kaidou without any help after all that, even tho when he is on such good term to two Most Powerful Crew in Onepiece?
Was he confident enough to take Kaidou on? , if Yes it makes his decision to make a deal with em utterly stupid.
If not, when so much at Stake, was he too proud or stupid to not call for help in 5 years time?

Oden didn't deserve Wano, he is good human at heart bt that's about it.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Idk that is good thing when taking Ls in their cover story while Sanji taking Ws in the arc and not doing much to others. Though will say they getting more spotlight than the headcannon 'Zoro's Arc' certain fans try to push.

Gotta love Oda's work ;)!
This is zoros arc.
He wont be crying outside a childs bedroom like sanji thats for sure.
 
The info is incomplete i would say wait untill once flashback finishes it can go eitherway.
It really can't "go eitherway". It was obvious in the chapter Oden started dancing that there would be no possible way it could be justified.

It couldn't be because of hostages, because the people of Wano were being executed, starved and slaved all throughout the 5 years anyways.
It couldn't be some crazy void century thing, because Oden all of a sudden decided to fight after the death of a character so irrelevant she wasn't even given a name, and simply is referred to as "Hyoguro's wife". The death of an unnamed character was more important than what agreement was made??? I don't think so.

What we were shown in that chapter contradicted itself.

5 years of negligence of Wano's country and people < Agreement x < Hyoguro's wife

^^ This is the core of the issue here, and cannot be reasonably justified no matter what x happened to be. That's why you could comfortably call BS in the initial chapter. And guess what? Turns out that's exactly what it was. Utter trash.
 
So this was the incredibly amazing reason to justify why Oden trusted the known liar and trickster Orochi, refused to fight for his country when they needed him most, danced naked in the streets for half a decade adding further insult to his people whilst they starved, were executed and forced into labour? Only to attack ANYWAY simply to lose because he left it too long...

It's almost as if the stankiness of this plot point could be smelt from its very creation. It's almost as if people were justified to call trash out on the spot knowing there was zero possible way there could be any satisfactory explanation. But it seems like Oda didn't even try and simply used a generic "tHeY HaD hOsTaGeS" excuse, and for Oden to legitimately believe that Orochi, from the Kurozumi clan that strived for so long to rule Wano, would simply up and leave if Oden gave him a strip tease...I really don't know what to say lmfaooooo. :suresure::suresure:

Fairly hard to argue that there is a character worse than Oden post timeskip. What a mistake his entire existence was...
THANK YOU, for putting my thoughts into that post.
I can't believe I'm saying this... but I'm starting to get sick and tired of this flashback.

And now.. he's begging Kaido to let him live? How fucking pathetic is this??
And him believing Kaido and Orochi yet again?? This is just stupid, I mean, for god sake.
 
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