Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 972: I’m Oden and I was Born to Boil
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Looks awful...At least edit it correctly 
Some of these might be better. Credits go to @stormylife @Zowo as well, for their help.
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The official translation has messed up pronouns before. Stephen often has to guess.
The problem with translating Japanese is that they don't have plural pronouns. Sometimes they add "tachi", like "oretachi", but "tachi" means "and company". Other times they don't even use pronouns at all. In English you are forced to use them, so translators have to guess.
The problem with translating Japanese is that they don't have plural pronouns. Sometimes they add "tachi", like "oretachi", but "tachi" means "and company". Other times they don't even use pronouns at all. In English you are forced to use them, so translators have to guess.
Chalk this up for another classic death scene. Ignoring some parts of the last few chapters, I really liked how this chapter hearkened back to the earlier parts of the flashback. Oden, if there's one thing consistent about him, is that he doesn't speak up about the burdens he has to deal with. He also doesn't let what people think of him bother him, as shown when he baked ontop of someone's corpse, giving a silent good bye. People judged him for that action, but it's clear he shared a unique bond with the man who died, and did what his friend likely asked him to do upon his passing.
He later demonstrates this trait when he helped out Kin'emon. Kin'emon was in the truth the one who brought the mountain god to the capital, but Oden spared him that burden to take the blame all alone.
It happens over and over, like Oden going after Ashura and his men alone, sneaking out to join Whitebeard alone, even dancing and becoming the country fool all alone.
This is both a strong character trait, as well as a weakness. One which did lead to his death. However, through probably his last moments with the Scabbards, and understanding the importance of trust, Oden believes in his retainers to finish what he had wanted to do: Open the borders of Wano. And this might be a bit cheesy to say, they managed to "open his own borders" in the process. Whether it's a combination of their unique characters, the times they spent (Oden didn't appear to have many friends before them), or their constant devotion, it led to him entrusting them with his most crucial task.
@Lampyris covered the whole "prophecy" bit perfectly. It reads less like a prophecy of sorts, and more like a window of opportunity for the world to strike back against the entity that has encroached it for centuries. And all that's left is for someone/somebodies to make that stand. It could be just about anyone, like all the pirates Roger inspired, hoping one of them may finish what he could not.
Great chapter. Though now I'm ready for us to go back to the present. It's time for Luffy and everyone else to take on their first Emperor/s of the sea, and open Wano's borders alongside the Scabbards.
He later demonstrates this trait when he helped out Kin'emon. Kin'emon was in the truth the one who brought the mountain god to the capital, but Oden spared him that burden to take the blame all alone.
It happens over and over, like Oden going after Ashura and his men alone, sneaking out to join Whitebeard alone, even dancing and becoming the country fool all alone.
This is both a strong character trait, as well as a weakness. One which did lead to his death. However, through probably his last moments with the Scabbards, and understanding the importance of trust, Oden believes in his retainers to finish what he had wanted to do: Open the borders of Wano. And this might be a bit cheesy to say, they managed to "open his own borders" in the process. Whether it's a combination of their unique characters, the times they spent (Oden didn't appear to have many friends before them), or their constant devotion, it led to him entrusting them with his most crucial task.
@Lampyris covered the whole "prophecy" bit perfectly. It reads less like a prophecy of sorts, and more like a window of opportunity for the world to strike back against the entity that has encroached it for centuries. And all that's left is for someone/somebodies to make that stand. It could be just about anyone, like all the pirates Roger inspired, hoping one of them may finish what he could not.
Great chapter. Though now I'm ready for us to go back to the present. It's time for Luffy and everyone else to take on their first Emperor/s of the sea, and open Wano's borders alongside the Scabbards.
My apologies. That was an older one that I also did swiftly.
Some of these might be better. Credits go to @stormylife @Zowo as well, for their help.
Some of these might be better. Credits go to @stormylife @Zowo as well, for their help.
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Issue is he didn't make a general claim. He seemingly knew the exact time it would occur. Exactly 20 years in the future.
Saying someone will carry out a once in a lifetime action (ex:coming to shut down Walmart) exactly 20 years from now is a bit different than saying someone will go to Walmart today (people do this daily).
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Oden's death was great, doesn't make up for his actions prior but it is what it is at this point.
Glad Kaidou didn't appreciate the help from the hag, goes completely against the character that was built up this whole time.
Saying someone will carry out a once in a lifetime action (ex:coming to shut down Walmart) exactly 20 years from now is a bit different than saying someone will go to Walmart today (people do this daily).
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Oden's death was great, doesn't make up for his actions prior but it is what it is at this point.
Glad Kaidou didn't appreciate the help from the hag, goes completely against the character that was built up this whole time.
He did. It's guesswork. Someone has already gone over this using the Viz version.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...d-i-was-born-to-boil.3095/page-23#post-247812
Oden's actions prior to this also make sense and were addressed by the story already.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...d-i-was-born-to-boil.3095/page-23#post-247812
Oden's actions prior to this also make sense and were addressed by the story already.
It can be salty if you want but still factual, care to rebuke me man?
If all you can say to a well put out post stating facts is this then I pity you. This is why no one takes you guys seriously. You have nothing of substance to say but your childish antics.
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keep being salty
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