Spoiler One Piece Chapter 973 Spoilers Discussion

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Can't believe Kaido let Momo live, the Wano Arc would be much more enjoyable for me if he didn't exist since day one. My man kaido should have crushed the little snot back then, it would save me all the annoying Momo moments that exist through this whole Wano saga.

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On the topic of Yonkou commanders, folks are getting a bit to caught up on this imaginary Yonkou Commander ranking System that community has established (i.e. All YC1s are on the same level > All YC2s are on the same level > All YC3s are on the same level) but things simply cannot work this way, reasons being 1.) the deeper we get into the story, the stronger the antagonists will have to be for our protagonists else there will be no strength progression for them. Imagine BBs no, 1, 2, 3 being only as strong as their counterparts in the Beast pirates even with Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe poised to beat King, Queen and potentially Jack or Smoothie this arc ^^". Regardless of how you think about it, it doesn't make any sense 2.) different crews have different dynamics, Katakuri being heads an shoulders over his sweet commander counter parts doesn't mean that would be case for all the YC1s in every other Yonkou crew. At least that wasn't the case with the WB pirates from what we saw from the MF war. Like wise, Smoothie doesn't seem to be that much stronger than Cracker, whereas Queen seems to be significantly stronger than Jack. So YC1 = YC1 and so on logic doesn't really make much sense at especially at this point in the story with all the new information we have. Though I can understand why people came up with it.

On the Calamities v Sweet Commanders ting, Oda usually shows the strength progression of the antagonists via bounties.
Moria had a bigger bounty than Croc, and Doffy a bigger bounty than Moria etc and has done so once again this arc with the Calamities having significantly higher bounties than the Sweet Commanders. So the Calamities are most likely stronger than the Sweet Commanders. If they aren't then why are their bounties significantly higher then? The excuse folks will try to give is that the Beast Pirates are ruthless but the Big Mom Pirates have been shown to be just as ruthless as the Sweet Commanders so what exactly is the difference? In the same vein the Red Hair pirate commanders have been hyped up to have even higher bounties than the calamities and they just so happen to be next in line opponents for the SHs. Or are people going to argue that the Red Hair Pirates have bigger bounties than the calamities because they are more ruthless...lolz.
Yeah no bounties never once meant power level, Moria's bounty was higher than Crocodile but that doesn't mean he was stronger. Usopp has a higher bounty than Franky so I guess that means Usopp is stronger than Franky, Perospero has a higher bounty than Snack but that doesn't mean he's stronger than him, oh and Tamago has a higher bounty than Zoro so I guess that means Tamago is stronger than Zoro then. Smoothie doesn't seem to be that much stronger than Cracker? Yet we never seen her actually fight so you can't say that Smoothie is around Cracker's level when we never saw her fighting, funny how you say Queen is so much stronger than Jack yet again we never saw Queen fight. I'm guessing your reasoning is because Jack is a bit afraid of Queen if that's the reason then it's a lame one, until we see Queen in action you can't say he's so much stronger than Jack.

No the BMP were never shown to be as ruthless as the Beasts Pirates, the BMP don't go around destroying countries and killing civilians for fun like the Beasts Pirates do. There is a reason why the All Stars are known as the Calamities, Jack even stated that he likes to destroy for fun. You can't say the Calamities are stronger than the Sweet Generals without actual evidence and proof, saying their bounties are higher is not actual evidence for them being stronger. Some people want to see actual proof of power level that's why we wait until we see them in action, head-canon thoughts and saying their bounties are higher is not actual proof of power level.

I tried to take your post seriously but when I was reading it, you came off as being bias towards the Calamities.
 
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The dukes can match awakening, mochi stickiness, Mogura lethality and FS? Stop IP

In what is Shutenmaru on par with Katakuri?
You think Ashura Doji can match Katakuri better than Bound Man?



Exactly; and yet, according to your logic, Jack~Katakuri?
The main character needed a mid-battle op PU to defeat Katakuri whilst I don't even think that Jack would be a big threat against Bound Man.



Bro, you are literally saying they can match Katakuri better than WCI Luffy with G4th, how exactly can they apparently match Katakuri... even you cannot answer it.

Lol, what exactly shows that katakuri can survive fighting sengoku, fujitora and tsuru since you wanna use flawed logic
 
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Kata is the one of the best examples to show aganist people who thinks skills are everything to determine WSX. He has skills yet lacking power to back it up. His fans cant accept this reality tho
:milaugh:yeah right after Oda made G3 can blow Fuji on guard, G3 can send Kaido down, g3 + sanji blocked BM prometheus named attack.

You think g3 wont affect Calamities?
Now imagine Katakuri g3 on calamities or top tiers (not named BM/kaido)

" doesnt have power" the dude easily made g3++ troll punch.

What will calamities do when trapped by mochi? How will they even land a hit with their slow attack & reactions speed? They also lack long range attacks.

Except King who is fast and may have long range attacks , which are easier to dodge anyway.

No calamity can counter Kata Fs awakening and skills except maybe King who still cant put Kata down unless he has G4 tier attacks :milaugh:Which I doubt since G4 punches couldn't even put kata on floor.

:yasu: When Boundman luffy couldn't pull out the arm from kata body, yet Jack/Queen/... will break out when trapped.

Goodluck :pepedoffy:
 
Can't believe Kaido let Momo live, the Wano Arc would be much more enjoyable for me if he didn't exist since day one. My man kaido should have crushed the little snot back then, it would save me all the annoying Momo moments that exist through this whole Wano saga.

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Zoro went through training with Zoro. Momo is going through character development. He surpose to be a scared fool who turns into a crying dragon until now. This is why Zoro taught him snatch. He going to be beating up people in the war. Get his moment.
 
Lol, what exactly shows that katakuri can survive fighting sengoku, fujitora and tsuru since you wanna use flawed logic
You hero, do you know what happend during the clash?
We don´t know everything, not a single information about their battle, we don´t know how Jack flee or battle against Fujitora and co.
And judging by Jack current feats, he is behind Katakuri.

I can understand people if they compare King with Katakuri or even Queen is something who is debatle overall(in my opinion Kata is still above Queen but we will see), but Jack has no place right now to place him equal or above Katakuri. It doesn´t would make anysense, King wise for sure he gonna be Katakuri lvl, probably slighty even above?
 
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