Spoiler One Piece Chapter 973 Spoilers Discussion

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nik87

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Guys, the bounty gap is not the only thing to determinate someone's strength.
Jack's bounty is close to Katakuri's - would you think someone like Shutenmaru can easily blitz Kata? Or Katakuri needing 5 days to defeat one of the Dukes?
Queen is apparently better, in what exactly? Exclude the bounty gap, how is Queen better than Katakuri? Brute strength? Sure, Queen may be stronger, it is just useless against Katakuri's shapeshifting plus FS.

At the moment, people tend to overestimate Commanders like Jack and Queen extremely. It is likely that King could be stronger than Katakuri but there's no way the third strongest Beast Pirate is stronger than Big Mom's strongest fighters.

YC1 characters usually have something which puts them comfortably above the average Yonko Commanders.
Katakuri has his FS and King will have an ability comparable to Kata's; he'd be rather the offensive type whilst Kata is more evasive.
Do you think Kong Gun would affect Jack anywhere close to how much it affected Katakuri?
Both Jack and Queen have stats that exceed Katakuri's by a mile. All that Katakuri has is FS which gives the illusion of him being strong.
Aside from FS and movement speed, is there any stat that Katakuri has even close to them?
Yes, he has FS which puts him comfortably above average commanders. If you can deal with that, he is nothing special.
As long as King has even a remotely effective AoE, Katakuri presents no issue for him.
 
If Oda pulls off one of the Dukes to be the traitor, I'd applaud him for real, considering the amount of sacrifices they made on Zou!
For real! That would be something to applaud him for
Nothing to applaud
It just means Oda is trying too hard with the traitor twist and ends up doesn't making any sense

Traitor lost his limb trying to protect Oden's retainer :vistalaugh:
 
Nothing to applaud
It just means Oda is trying too hard with the traitor twist and ends up doesn't making any sense

Traitor lost his limb trying to protect Oden's retainer :vistalaugh:
Exactly why I said that it's hard to pull off (while making it make sense). Because it's so difficult to make it logical. So, just pulling it off isn't impressive, but pulling it off, but somehow showcasing stuff that ends up making it "work" will be something that will impress me
 
Katakuri boys talking about Pica is so old news yet still wanking him until now :rolleyes:

Katakuri is old news
His barely above 1 billion bounty is old news, there are multiple YCs with higher bounties now
His Future Sight is old news, Luffy already moved on to learn another new technique
His hype is old news, his Captain trying to recruit another, stronger YC1
His feat is old news, there is another YC kicking his mommy ass now
 
On the topic of Yonkou commanders, folks are getting a bit to caught up on this imaginary Yonkou Commander ranking System that community has established (i.e. All YC1s are on the same level > All YC2s are on the same level > All YC3s are on the same level) but things simply cannot work this way, reasons being 1.) the deeper we get into the story, the stronger the antagonists will have to be for our protagonists else there will be no strength progression for them. Imagine BBs no, 1, 2, 3 being only as strong as their counterparts in the Beast pirates even with Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe poised to beat King, Queen and potentially Jack or Smoothie this arc ^^". Regardless of how you think about it, it doesn't make any sense 2.) different crews have different dynamics, Katakuri being heads an shoulders over his sweet commander counter parts doesn't mean that would be case for all the YC1s in every other Yonkou crew. At least that wasn't the case with the WB pirates from what we saw from the MF war. Like wise, Smoothie doesn't seem to be that much stronger than Cracker, whereas Queen seems to be significantly stronger than Jack. So YC1 = YC1 and so on logic doesn't really make much sense at especially at this point in the story with all the new information we have. Though I can understand why people came up with it.

On the Calamities v Sweet Commanders ting, Oda usually shows the strength progression of the antagonists via bounties.
Moria had a bigger bounty than Croc, and Doffy a bigger bounty than Moria etc and has done so once again this arc with the Calamities having significantly higher bounties than the Sweet Commanders. So the Calamities are most likely stronger than the Sweet Commanders. If they aren't then why are their bounties significantly higher then? The excuse folks will try to give is that the Beast Pirates are ruthless but the Big Mom Pirates have been shown to be just as ruthless as the Sweet Commanders so what exactly is the difference? In the same vein the Red Hair pirate commanders have been hyped up to have even higher bounties than the calamities and they just so happen to be next in line opponents for the SHs. Or are people going to argue that the Red Hair Pirates have bigger bounties than the calamities because they are more ruthless...lolz.
 
Previous translations of Kaido's words to Momo were incorrect.

Kaido is saying, "A dream that his parents or someone forced Momo to say, not his own dream. What a immature kid.."

Momo says his father was a great samurai and Momo will be responsible for Wano. However, as you can see in the pic, his words/dream are taken from what Toki said earlier.

Momo doesn't have his own dream yet, which disappointed Kaido a lot.

From Sandman

Thanks to @T.D.A
 
Nothing wrong being a Fairy Tail fans.
For all we know, Fairy Tail:
1. Doesn't offpanel its matches
2. Doesn't have a dumb MC that keeps spamming "wanna be PK" in every chance
3. No flashback within flashback
4. The author doesn't get confused between "boiling" and "frying"
5. No break every few weeks, if anything sometimes there are double or even triple!!!!! chapters in a week

But but Fairy Tail is filled with plot armor!!1 yep, like Luffy vs Katakuri fight?
But but Fanservice Tail!!1 Yep, just like how Nami dressed all the way from Fishman island to Dressrosa arcs, Rebecca, etc?
But but Fairy Tail's villains are dumb despite being greatly hyped? Yep, like Big "Weeddiiingg Caakeeee" Meme, Kaido of 100 hostages and Kaido the genius who sent Luffy to summer camp Udon?
As someone who was a fan of Fairy Tail (or at least the anime) the fanservice was a lot more than One Piece (but FT is an ecchi so it makes sense). But one thing I can admit is that Hiro made his female cast actually fight and be helpful. Erza, Kagura, Minerva just to name a few
 

Cyrus the Cactus

Mihawk Reigns Supreme
Zoro wants to kill Orochi
Momo wants to kill Kaido
Go read one piece again
Law wanted to kill Doffy. That didn’t work out for him.
Wiper wanted to kill Enel. That didn’t work out for him.
Brook wanted to defeat Ryuma. That didn’t work out for him.
Rebecca wanted to kill Diamante and Doffy. That didn’t work out for her.
Viola wanted to kill Doffy. That didn’t work out for her.
Bege wanted to kill Meme. That didn’t work out for him.

I could probably list other examples if I thought about it hard enough.
 
No you said its because of kaido that the beast pirates are higher.
So with meme having a higher bounty than shanks do her sweet commanders have higher bounties than shanks 3 highlighted by the marines????
I'm not saying. Oda says this.The captain effect is just one of the most important factors in awarding bounties.WB's crew will have more bounties than RHP's.Thats why even weak Jack is have 1 billion bounty there are other reasons such as civilian massacres and being active ofc.
 
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