Spoiler One Piece Chapter 978 Spoilers Discussion
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I don’t think we should be counting X Drake as a true member of the Flying Six. There’s essentially only 5. He most likely will turn on Kaido when he gets the opportunity and will not be fighting at his full strength. And After this Arc his undercover pirate days are most likely over. So Him to being a Top Vice Admiral or something
@MD Zolo Pics aren't out yet but spoiler provider says P1 is pinpin
lolz so at this point I don't think there's any denying that P1 is battle able for Onigashima which is disappointing to say the least personally, as if Sanji didn't take P1 out, then why make him engage P1 in the first place? I mean the point of Sanji engaging him was to stop the destruction of the town and hurt to the people so if Sanji just exchanged a few blows with P1 and then bailed what was stopping P1 from destroying the town to force Sanji out again? and why didn't we see him till now? Also why did Sanji abandon the fight? (assuming he did). All questions I'm hoping Oda answers but won't hold my breathe on that lolz. But yh, I'll acknowledge my L on this.
On other stuff, interesting to know that there are 2 female members of the F6 as it feels like they are both going to be match-ups for Robin and Nami. Also one of the Flying Six wearing a mask makes me think that it could be a character we are already familiar with, maybe the Gin theorists are onto something..lolz but we'll see. Hopefully we get a few interaction panels from the F6 to get a feel of their personalities and not just get introduced to them.
lolz so at this point I don't think there's any denying that P1 is battle able for Onigashima which is disappointing to say the least personally, as if Sanji didn't take P1 out, then why make him engage P1 in the first place? I mean the point of Sanji engaging him was to stop the destruction of the town and hurt to the people so if Sanji just exchanged a few blows with P1 and then bailed what was stopping P1 from destroying the town to force Sanji out again? and why didn't we see him till now? Also why did Sanji abandon the fight? (assuming he did). All questions I'm hoping Oda answers but won't hold my breathe on that lolz. But yh, I'll acknowledge my L on this.On other stuff, interesting to know that there are 2 female members of the F6 as it feels like they are both going to be match-ups for Robin and Nami. Also one of the Flying Six wearing a mask makes me think that it could be a character we are already familiar with, maybe the Gin theorists are onto something..lolz but we'll see. Hopefully we get a few interaction panels from the F6 to get a feel of their personalities and not just get introduced to them.
1. The majority of team battles have either been one sided stomps (straw hats vs Franky family, and straw hats vs zombies) OR long drawn out, RPG style fights (straw hats vs oars, straw hats vs pacifista). None of these fights were all that amazing in displaying the straw hats individual strengths. Against the Franky Family and zombies it was like cleaning up trash and one shotting or low diffing everyone. While against Oars and the Pacifista it was just chipping them away until they fell down. They used teamwork and sneaky ways to overcome the enemy but that's it. They don't really get a whole lot stronger this way, because those victories required a team effort, it wouldn't apply to future battles very much if they didn't have others around to help them. Like the Brook and Nami Lightning Bon Advant combos against Oars for example. In a fight against the Blackbeard pirates and Straw hats where each crew will consist of 10-11 members on both sides, we can't just have team ups and leave some blackbeard crew members free with no opponents. That just means they can gang up on the other straws which only makes things worse. Luffy vs Blackbeard, Zoro vs Shiryu and Sanji vs the third strongest, Jinbe vs 4th, while the rest have to team up just to defeat a single blackbeard pirate, they'll run out of people before they can beat them.
2. I've never liked Nami getting the zeus powerup. Nami is only strong in a fight when she doesn't get into a challenging close combat. She can only fight against enemies from a distance, and once she loses her baton or her arms are restricted its over for her, just like how Charlotte Galette stopped her easily with her butter.
3. I also disagree that they have time. It is because of the lack of fights, Oda is now forced to just hand out powerups to the straw hats on a whim. Nami get Zeus, Sanji gets Raid Suit, Zoro gets Enma etc. This is despite the fact that Zoro hasn't even gone all out yet, Sanji haven't had a Jabra like fight yet where he pushes himself to develop a new technique like Diable Jambe (Sky Walk was only learned during the timeskip so that doesn't count), and Nami's last 1v1 fight where she improved herself was against Kalifa of CP9 and learned the new mirage and lightning attacks(not counting the timeskip training). After that Nami has been relying on outside help ever since, like Ussop to upgrade her climate baton and stealing zeus to get stronger. The only person that Oda made time for was Luffy, where before his fight against Kaido, Oda had to cram in 3 1v1 fights for Luffy against, Doffy, Cracker and Katakuri, just so Luffy can be able to take on Kaido in Wano. And in all 3 of those fights Luffy needed outside help, he couldn't beat them on his own, granted this doesn't matter much since taking down Kaido is most likely gonna be a team effort anyway with Kidd and Law. But what about against blackbeard? Luffy needs to beat him on his own.
4. It's true that they don't need to be at peak strength now, and its also true that they won't reach peak strength even if the 1v1 opponents this arc. But at the rate they are going now if Oda doesn't have them improve individually now, then it just stays like this and the longer we get closer to the final war, the more powerups and upgrades Oda has to give to the straw hats and hastily cram into the story just for them to be ready. We can't just have the straw hats always getting powerups, but little to no fights.
2. I've never liked Nami getting the zeus powerup. Nami is only strong in a fight when she doesn't get into a challenging close combat. She can only fight against enemies from a distance, and once she loses her baton or her arms are restricted its over for her, just like how Charlotte Galette stopped her easily with her butter.
3. I also disagree that they have time. It is because of the lack of fights, Oda is now forced to just hand out powerups to the straw hats on a whim. Nami get Zeus, Sanji gets Raid Suit, Zoro gets Enma etc. This is despite the fact that Zoro hasn't even gone all out yet, Sanji haven't had a Jabra like fight yet where he pushes himself to develop a new technique like Diable Jambe (Sky Walk was only learned during the timeskip so that doesn't count), and Nami's last 1v1 fight where she improved herself was against Kalifa of CP9 and learned the new mirage and lightning attacks(not counting the timeskip training). After that Nami has been relying on outside help ever since, like Ussop to upgrade her climate baton and stealing zeus to get stronger. The only person that Oda made time for was Luffy, where before his fight against Kaido, Oda had to cram in 3 1v1 fights for Luffy against, Doffy, Cracker and Katakuri, just so Luffy can be able to take on Kaido in Wano. And in all 3 of those fights Luffy needed outside help, he couldn't beat them on his own, granted this doesn't matter much since taking down Kaido is most likely gonna be a team effort anyway with Kidd and Law. But what about against blackbeard? Luffy needs to beat him on his own.
4. It's true that they don't need to be at peak strength now, and its also true that they won't reach peak strength even if the 1v1 opponents this arc. But at the rate they are going now if Oda doesn't have them improve individually now, then it just stays like this and the longer we get closer to the final war, the more powerups and upgrades Oda has to give to the straw hats and hastily cram into the story just for them to be ready. We can't just have the straw hats always getting powerups, but little to no fights.
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