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When will The BMP enter Wano?


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According to wiki Miss Golden Week was 16 pre TS and is 18 now
You all know what that means
It's illegal for @Reddot4 to like Rebecca but not if it's Ms. Golden Week.
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I’m surprised about Haccha’s appearance, I thought the Numbers were demons/animals but apparently they’re most likely nothing more than oversized humans that ate a Zoan DF. I’ll be a little disappointed if that’s the case.
I've speculated the Numbers to be Zoan users as an excuse for being giants. Now, I believe they were part of a gigantification experiment.
 
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Zoro would not be as strong as he is right now if he got Luffy type of training. Luffy if he got proffessional training like Coby, Zoro, Sanji etc would be Yonko level right now.

For Example, Take child Zoro at age 4, give him swords, throw him in the jungle and tell him to survive. This Zoro would never be as strong as he was pre time skip Zoro that he trained at the dojo.

Then during the timeskip, have Garp teach Zoro haki, and then leave him to fight the Rusoskaina Animals, and figure it out on his own.

During those times above, have Zoro never lift wieghts, only survival and haki training,like luffy had until Wano.

The Zoro above would never be as strong as the Zoro we have now in the story.

That is exactly what Luffy is. Luffy never had any proffesional training.
 
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The Zoro above would never be as strong as the Zoro we have now in the story.

That is exactly what Luffy is. Luffy never had any proffesional training
This is wildly out of context speculation

You're forgetting that Zoro and Luffy have different personalities and PERSONALITIES AFFECT THIS

Luffy DOES NOT have the capacity to do actual formal training. He just does not. He literally wouldn't have the attention span to last ONE day of actual formal training. That's why tossing him into life and death situations is the easiest way to teach him. It forces him to be at attention which wouldn't happen in any form of class room or whatever

Now Zoro also doesn't have a very good attention span but the difference is that Zoro DOES have high discipline. He's the equivalent of the not smart kid in class who still studies like 10 times harder than anyone else. Zoro took over 10 years to understand what Koushiro taught him about haki but then Zoro created a formal martial art style BY HIMSELF just so that he can create an upper hand in fighting Kuina.

So their personalities affect these things. Three sword style WOULD NOT exist if Zoro fought how Luffy fights. It's a martial art so it can't be a thing that is created and used in improvisational life and death situations only. He has to constantly practice and refine it day in and day out. Zoro would have to fight like Mugen from Samurai Champloo if he had taken Luffy’s method of growth.

Luffy on the other hand does not have the patience and attention to study formal techniques and thats why even jn his actual fights he loses all the time. Because he learned from adaptation so even hid actual fights are based on adaptation and so he always loses and has to adapt to win.

Your assumptions about how one would be in the others scenario is ignoring their personalities and entire fighting styles would drastically change and could even result in them getting weaker due to their personalities not matching their training method
 
For Example, Take child Zoro at age 4, give him swords, throw him in the jungle and tell him to survive. This Zoro would never be as strong as he was pre time skip Zoro that he trained at the dojo.

Then during the timeskip, have Garp teach Zoro haki, and then leave him to fight the Rusoskaina Animals, and figure it out on his own.

During those times above, have Zoro never lift wieghts, only survival and haki training,like luffy had until Wano.

The Zoro above would never be as strong as the Zoro we have now in the story.

That is exactly what Luffy is. Luffy never had any proffesional training.
So goner ignore everything else that he did in those 10 years with his brothers and garp.
when did zoro at the dojo had to fight a top tier chatater like garp or even someone as strong as his bothers espcaily teenage ace.
 
This is wildly out of context speculation

You're forgetting that Zoro and Luffy have different personalities and PERSONALITIES AFFECT THIS

Luffy DOES NOT have the capacity to do actual formal training. He just does not. He literally wouldn't have the attention span to last ONE day of actual formal training. That's why tossing him into life and death situations is the easiest way to teach him. It forces him to be at attention which wouldn't happen in any form of class room or whatever

Now Zoro also doesn't have a very good attention span but the difference is that Zoro DOES have high discipline. He's the equivalent of the not smart kid in class who still studies like 10 times harder than anyone else. Zoro took over 10 years to understand what Koushiro taught him about haki but then Zoro created a formal martial art style BY HIMSELF just so that he can create an upper hand in fighting Kuina.

So their personalities affect these things. Three sword style WOULD NOT exist if Zoro fought how Luffy fights. It's a martial art so it can't be a thing that is created and used in improvisational life and death situations only. He has to constantly practice and refine it day in and day out. Zoro would have to fight like Mugen from Samurai Champloo if he had taken Luffy’s method of growth.

Luffy on the other hand does not have the patience and attention to study formal techniques and thats why even jn his actual fights he loses all the time. Because he learned from adaptation so even hid actual fights are based on adaptation and so he always loses and has to adapt to win.

Your assumptions about how one would be in the others scenario is ignoring their personalities and entire fighting styles would drastically change and could even result in them getting weaker due to their personalities not matching their training method
Lies, the fact that he learned 3 haki by Rayleigh proves that notion to he false. So stop the BS you are spewing.
 

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Ok this is interesting, a Phoenix had a "Flame of Rebirth" ability and he can do a "Supernova" which is caused a massive blast.

Considering Oda named the worst generation as Supernova, does that mean Marco The Phoenix will die and make a better era for the "Worst Generation/Supernova"?
I want to know if Marco dies, is a different version of him reborn like a Phoenix?? :quest:
 
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Imagine hes awakening with those you mention :steef::steef:
I'm also interested in his awakening. His explosion attack made Luffy fainted and bypass blocking. Seems broken and if he can spam that explosion attack Apoo would be too OP. Not to mention Apoo Didn't use armament or observation haki during the clash.
 
Zoro would not be as strong as he is right now if he got Luffy type of training. Luffy if he got proffessional training like Coby, Zoro, Sanji etc would be Yonko level right now.

For Example, Take child Zoro at age 4, give him swords, throw him in the jungle and tell him to survive. This Zoro would never be as strong as he was pre time skip Zoro that he trained at the dojo.

Then during the timeskip, have Garp teach Zoro haki, and then leave him to fight the Rusoskaina Animals, and figure it out on his own.

During those times above, have Zoro never lift wieghts, only survival and haki training,like luffy had until Wano.

The Zoro above would never be as strong as the Zoro we have now in the story.

That is exactly what Luffy is. Luffy never had any proffesional training.
With Zoro's training since his childhood day, I won't be surprised if he became the strongest. He deserve it. The only thing that prevent him from officially being the strongest is the plot.
 
With Zoro's training since his childhood day, I won't be surprised if he became the strongest. He deserve it. The only thing that prevent him from officially being the strongest is the plot.
Just potential, some people have more than others.

The only people that have more potential than Zoro are Luffy, Garp Roger, Whitebeard, Blackbeard, Kid and Law
 
Just potential, some people have more than others.

The only people that have more potential than Zoro are Luffy, Roger, Whitebeard, Blackbeard, Kid and Law
Actually only people with possible more potential than Zoro are Smoker & Sabo, who will also be surpassing the top dogs (Roger & WB included) of the Golden Gen.

Furthermore, Garp has more potential than Roger/WB
 
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