Spoiler One Piece Chapter 983 Spoilers Discussion
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Probably he have something which is better then G4, a new trumpcard? Or he can now use G4 far longer? This will be interesting to see, but the last thing, I think you are right. The Gap between Vet/Commander don't seems to beeing larger,more minimal.
That isn't how scaling working, we don't need a battle of Luffy vs Jack to say that he isn't equal to Cracker. YC and Vets of the two Yonkou play almost in same league. And I already make you a simple scaling with Yonji could match easily off Daifuku. We don't need a 1on1 fight with Daifuku vs Luffy because we already have other simple points.
Daifuku huge Genie get blocked by Base Sanji while RS get throw easily by Pageone. If we use scaling, Pageone perform better.
Or other simple point,Nami get easily negged by Smoothie, weaker then Kata who is Luffy lvl, the same Luffy who need G4 in the new chapter.
We don't even need the Daifuku compare, Nami who get negged by Smoothie are enough to say that she aren't any threat for such characters, Luffy would do even worse to Nami as Smoothie did.
Nami lack in reactionspeed, she didn't have even any haki form; she pyhsical weak and only just have her power with Zeus together, she lacks in the manythings.
In compare we have Ulti who force Luffy to use G4. That is enough, or do you want to say me that Nami or Robin could force Luffy to use G2/G3 or even G4?
Because Kata,Cracker and Doffy are the only character expect the Yonkous who force Luffy to use G4. Before no one could do that, even Don Chinjao couldn't do that, literally no one even Ceaser who is above Nami and co. Yet Ulti do it and force Luffy use G4 which is a insane good feat.
As I ask you before, could Nami perform a similar feat against Luffy?
It is different when someone as Nami use zeus or when Big mom use it, I hope you see the different. Nami had the power of zeus large weather against Galetta too, do it help her to take out Galetta? Did it help her against Amande? No, she was simple caught off by these characters.
Neither Robin and Nami have the feats for matching Luffy, Nami fucking struggel against far weaker opponents, stop it you sound like a fanboy. Nami and Robin ending like Smoker who use Tashigi body and get trashed by Luffy casually with G2. That huge is the different between these characters.
What funny about Ulti beeing stronger then Diamante? Diamante would get rekt hard by current Luffy, he couldn't even dream to force Luffy to G4.
Ulti is in same ballpark as xDrake, she force fucking Luffy to use G4, she overbreak his CoA with her own CoA. She play of course in that league, you are simple a Nami fanboy and a Ulti hater if you think that Ulti don't play in same league as xDrake and co. She already have better physical and haki feat then Doffy, what has Nami and Robin?
Imagine thinking Nami or Robin could force Luffy to use G3/G4...
That isn't how scaling working, we don't need a battle of Luffy vs Jack to say that he isn't equal to Cracker. YC and Vets of the two Yonkou play almost in same league. And I already make you a simple scaling with Yonji could match easily off Daifuku. We don't need a 1on1 fight with Daifuku vs Luffy because we already have other simple points.
Daifuku huge Genie get blocked by Base Sanji while RS get throw easily by Pageone. If we use scaling, Pageone perform better.
Or other simple point,Nami get easily negged by Smoothie, weaker then Kata who is Luffy lvl, the same Luffy who need G4 in the new chapter.
We don't even need the Daifuku compare, Nami who get negged by Smoothie are enough to say that she aren't any threat for such characters, Luffy would do even worse to Nami as Smoothie did.
Nami lack in reactionspeed, she didn't have even any haki form; she pyhsical weak and only just have her power with Zeus together, she lacks in the manythings.
In compare we have Ulti who force Luffy to use G4. That is enough, or do you want to say me that Nami or Robin could force Luffy to use G2/G3 or even G4?
Because Kata,Cracker and Doffy are the only character expect the Yonkous who force Luffy to use G4. Before no one could do that, even Don Chinjao couldn't do that, literally no one even Ceaser who is above Nami and co. Yet Ulti do it and force Luffy use G4 which is a insane good feat.
As I ask you before, could Nami perform a similar feat against Luffy?
It is different when someone as Nami use zeus or when Big mom use it, I hope you see the different. Nami had the power of zeus large weather against Galetta too, do it help her to take out Galetta? Did it help her against Amande? No, she was simple caught off by these characters.
Neither Robin and Nami have the feats for matching Luffy, Nami fucking struggel against far weaker opponents, stop it you sound like a fanboy. Nami and Robin ending like Smoker who use Tashigi body and get trashed by Luffy casually with G2. That huge is the different between these characters.
What funny about Ulti beeing stronger then Diamante? Diamante would get rekt hard by current Luffy, he couldn't even dream to force Luffy to G4.
Ulti is in same ballpark as xDrake, she force fucking Luffy to use G4, she overbreak his CoA with her own CoA. She play of course in that league, you are simple a Nami fanboy and a Ulti hater if you think that Ulti don't play in same league as xDrake and co. She already have better physical and haki feat then Doffy, what has Nami and Robin?
Imagine thinking Nami or Robin could force Luffy to use G3/G4...
Nami and Robin are fodder compared to flying 6, Perospero soloed brook and chopper together , honestly the weak trio and the mid trio are probably fighting headliners/gifters. For Sanji fighting a flying 6 is guaranteed at this point but its unknown if he'll get anything above that, For Zoro it looks like he may be in the kaido fight, not sure who he's fighting before that tho, tbh. Luffy at this point im not sure if he'll get a warm up fight, he might just be running around until he finds kaido.
What if it's daz bones style or Ryuma style.
It's established Zoro wants to cut steel in Whiskey peak and Little garden. Oda creates a steel man for Zoro in Alabasta. The first time they meet is immediately the time Zoro cuts him down.
It's established Zoro needs a new sword in Ennies Lobby. Oda creates a legendary sword for Zoro in Thriller bark and the first time he meets Ryuma is immediately the time Zoro cuts him down.
It's established Zoro wants to learn to cut fire in Punk hazard. Oda creates a fire man for Zoro in Wano and the first time they meet is immediately the time Zoro cuts him down.
They even do this in Skypiea. It's established Zoro wants to improve his air slashes at the start of the arc. Oda creates a swordsman who fights at long range who is the strongest priest of Enel and the first time they meet is immediately the time Zoro cuts him down.
You seem to be picking one situation and for some reason it's the model everything should follow now
It's established Zoro wants to cut steel in Whiskey peak and Little garden. Oda creates a steel man for Zoro in Alabasta. The first time they meet is immediately the time Zoro cuts him down.
It's established Zoro needs a new sword in Ennies Lobby. Oda creates a legendary sword for Zoro in Thriller bark and the first time he meets Ryuma is immediately the time Zoro cuts him down.
It's established Zoro wants to learn to cut fire in Punk hazard. Oda creates a fire man for Zoro in Wano and the first time they meet is immediately the time Zoro cuts him down.
They even do this in Skypiea. It's established Zoro wants to improve his air slashes at the start of the arc. Oda creates a swordsman who fights at long range who is the strongest priest of Enel and the first time they meet is immediately the time Zoro cuts him down.
You seem to be picking one situation and for some reason it's the model everything should follow now
Yeah when you think about it, it's actually Oda's style to have characters just clash without build up not only in Eniess Lobby, but many other arcs throughout the series
Therefore i thought it's really difficult to just assume what hes planning with Zoro
Im one of Zoro vs King bidders, but in this chapter Oda seems to be holding him down for the moment for some reason
You got that right
Gags aside, Sanji going on his own can't be a random move from Oda
whenever he's alone he does some solo missions like that mr. prince shit
Ultimate extreme satisfying YC1/right hand men fight of Zoro x King, Yeah 
Therefore i thought it's really difficult to just assume what hes planning with Zoro
Im one of Zoro vs King bidders, but in this chapter Oda seems to be holding him down for the moment for some reason
You got that right
Gags aside, Sanji going on his own can't be a random move from Oda
whenever he's alone he does some solo missions like that mr. prince shit
What are your wildest Zoro fantasies? 
youre assuming all of the flying six are at the SAME strength when there is no evidence for it.
I would say based on the fact that sanji low diffed page 1 there aren't.
the flying six are akin to the cp9...who are all equal in rank but not close in strength. nami chopper and franky beat a cp9 member. so youre comparison of perospero who has a 700000 bounty is inaccurate
I would say based on the fact that sanji low diffed page 1 there aren't.
the flying six are akin to the cp9...who are all equal in rank but not close in strength. nami chopper and franky beat a cp9 member. so youre comparison of perospero who has a 700000 bounty is inaccurate
Maybe, it's an opinion after all. Still King's power doesn't seem like fire, more like his flying ancient zoan should be the main point. And there is no build-up for that. If King's main power is fire, then we didn't see it yet.
But it doesn't make sense for me when E.Oda showing Zoro to struggle against opponents like Killer, Hawkins, Kyoshiro etc. and then putting him in front of someone like on Katakuri's level, it's my opinion, we will see how it will happen. At first he shouldn't struggle against those opponents first, and he should fight someone like Cracker / Doflamingo first before fighting with someone like Katakuri level opponent. Even Urouge has a better feat such as defeating Snack, while Zoro doesn't even have that, but he is going to defeat someone like Katakuri suddenly? Nah, that's bad writing for me.
But it doesn't make sense for me when E.Oda showing Zoro to struggle against opponents like Killer, Hawkins, Kyoshiro etc. and then putting him in front of someone like on Katakuri's level, it's my opinion, we will see how it will happen. At first he shouldn't struggle against those opponents first, and he should fight someone like Cracker / Doflamingo first before fighting with someone like Katakuri level opponent. Even Urouge has a better feat such as defeating Snack, while Zoro doesn't even have that, but he is going to defeat someone like Katakuri suddenly? Nah, that's bad writing for me.
He's called WILDFIRE.
I mean Are you expecting Queen the Plague to not incorporate PLAGUE when he actually fights just because he's a dinosaur?
In fact the one time we can say King was serious was when he fought Oden back in the day and there's literally a panel of him Holding a sword while burning Raizo with FIRE.
I mean Are you expecting Queen the Plague to not incorporate PLAGUE when he actually fights just because he's a dinosaur?
In fact the one time we can say King was serious was when he fought Oden back in the day and there's literally a panel of him Holding a sword while burning Raizo with FIRE.
So what prompted the fight never had any bearing or did not influent the fight at all ? Zoro mindset was to defend hiyori,and killer's was to kill them.Just because there was no panel of kamazou going after hiyori during his fight with zoro,doesn't mean he didn't.There was also no panel of killer saying he did not want to capture hiyori during his fight with zoro.Using your logic i can then deduce that he wanted to go after hyori since there was no panel of him saying he did not .
It is absurd to assume killer would just ignore his initial reason for the fight and just engage in combat with zoro mindlessly since hes doing this because he ultimately want to save his captain.It is a much more plausible to deduce that the fight was oriented around the safety and captivity of hiyori.
I used "i believe" in a ironic way to explain the reasoning behind the lack of panel, it was not the main part of my argument,which is why i put it in ps.And you did not use any panel,by the way.
It is absurd to assume killer would just ignore his initial reason for the fight and just engage in combat with zoro mindlessly since hes doing this because he ultimately want to save his captain.It is a much more plausible to deduce that the fight was oriented around the safety and captivity of hiyori.
I used "i believe" in a ironic way to explain the reasoning behind the lack of panel, it was not the main part of my argument,which is why i put it in ps.And you did not use any panel,by the way.
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Could be, or his main power could be his flying ancient zoan and aerial attacks, we will see. There is no point on talking certain about the possibilities.
Either way King should be around Katakuri's level, and Zoro didn't even fight and defeat someone like Snack first, let alone Cracker / Doflamingo level opponent, suddenly he is soloing and defeating Katakuri level opponent doesn't work for me.
Either way King should be around Katakuri's level, and Zoro didn't even fight and defeat someone like Snack first, let alone Cracker / Doflamingo level opponent, suddenly he is soloing and defeating Katakuri level opponent doesn't work for me.
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