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Will Yamato Chan join the Straw Hats


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Laws W's include
  1. Smoker and the rest of g5
  2. Vergo and punk hazard mountains
  3. Stalling doffy and fuji for more than 2 seconds
  4. Fighting doffy alongside luffy and almost killing him tho he at least took out trebol
  5. Same bounty as luffy post dressrosa and still second highest supernova bounty
  6. Actually taking out hawkins
Law just too based and hes a D at that
:lawbepo:
1- smoker featless even sanji can take him out
2- lergo got matched and hitted a lot of times by smoker and sanji
3- what a feat he got pinned down by a distracted fuji just to :
- Let's analyze the 3 instances where Law managed to injure Doflamingo.

-Gave him a slight cut on his cheek on the bridge : Legit feat, 1 on 1, props to him. Did very little damage however.

-Injection injured Doffy in the castle, yea except Law only landed that blow by talking shit about the D and Corazon. Trebol even highlighted that it was unlike Doffy to be so careless.

-Gamma Knife here's the fun part, Law had to
-Fake his own death
-Shamble his body with a corpse near by
-Wait for Luffy to fight Doffy and give him the opportunity to surprise Doffy who thought he was dead

On the other hand Doffy destroyed Law easily, cut off his arm, tanked his best attack and he did all that while NOT EVEN USING HIS AWAKENING

- and Anyone with a brain knows that all of the hits Law managed to land were due to some trickery. When it was just pure fighting, DD was casually besting him throughout.

Also, notice how everyone brings up how Law wasn't at a 100%(even though he performed all of his strongest moves and created the largest Room to date) but never brings up the same argument for Luffy who had been fighting almost non stop that whole arc. They don't want to admit that Luffy handled DD much better.

4- after becoming a cheerleader to luffy he even hyped luffy's miracles bye rivalry .
5- fanfaction
one took 2lives from hawkins who surpassed his limit while being in niytoryo casually vs law who clashed three times :

1- In the first confrontation, Law had the advantage of knowing who he was fighting from the get-go when from Hawkins' perspective, Law was an unknown. And facing someone as hax as Law without any knowledge is dangerous, so Hawkins had to figure out who he was facing when Law on the other hand was already ready to off him
Yet despite this, Law failed in his mission with Hawkins figuring him out, and stopping him
2- In the second encounter, Hawkins decided to shot him down with seastone and he got nailed , but Law managed to barely escape
3- he clashed with dollless hawkins who needs his dolls to tank attacks and to use them to gain superpower through his cards but with risk and the same hawkins got betrayed yeah he did better than defensive mode nitoryo zoro lmfaoo :gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
another thing the first time we saw law got beating from hawkins he was bleeding from the left side of his face and the same hawkins noticed drake's strange behavior but after the fight law was bleeding from the right side so even base hawkins did better against law what do u think with cards will do ?
▪And in the manga it is implied he defeated Hawkins with his cards

▪While Dollless Hawkins got betrayed :gokulaugh::gokulaugh: read bogard post :milaugh::milaugh:
At full arsenal(10 dolls disperced all over Kuri+monster form), Hawkins can win. They had 3 confrontations

- In the first confrontation, Law had the advantage of knowing who he was fighting from the get-go when from Hawkins' perspective, Law was an unknown. And facing someone as hax as Law without any knowledge is dangerous, so Hawkins had to figure out who he was facing when Law on the other hand was already ready to off him




Yet despite this, Law failed in his mission with Hawkins figuring him out, and stopping him


After that the fight was interrupted, but it helped us knowing something important which is that Law's usual room slash doesn't work on Hawkins because the puppet remains alive, which is a great advantage Hawkins has over Law imo, but i'd explain why later


- In the second encounter, Hawkins decided to shot him down with seastone, but Law managed to barely escape



If you notice the final panel, you'd realize Law instantly vanished afterwards, which suggest the use of shambles after getting rid of the small seastone

And that was Hawkins's major problem imo. Finding a way to capture him without him managing to escape, and it's harder to capture someone than to kill someone, much less someone like Law who possess shamble to escape easily, which is why then in the final encounter he decided to use Law's crew as a bait, not only forcing Law to face him instead of escaping, but indirectly also allowing him to capture him without any risk, a risk Law himself was taking into account in case of direct encounter




Now as to why i think Hawkins has a chance? Well:

- As mentioned above, Hawkins is immune to Law's regular room slashes as long as he has a doll
- Secondly, Hawkins showed preskip that he could disperce his doll in multiple places in sabaody and still redirect damage to them

This is important imo because not only in this configuration, Hawkins would be immune to Law's usual room slashes, but since the dolls would be located in different places, it'd ultimately render Law's efforts in beating Hawkins with his usual room slashes futile, especially if Hawkins starts with 10 dolls available

In this case then, Law would be forced to fight in close combat to inflict damage(with injection shot, radio knife, gamma knife, etc)

And in close combat, Hawkins already showed the ability to react and counter him in base when we know he has a monster transformation which seems to even have expanded over the timeskip, with seemingly levitation mimickery, speed stats calced to Hawkins, and physical strength great enough to make Zoro(physically stronger than Law) struggle





Which could then ultimately not only give Hawkins the advantage in close combat, but also defensively(since Law would have a hard time killing him 10 times especially with his usual room slashes not working), while also having card boosts that could potentially boost him further and further the longer the fight, ultimately then allowing Hawkins to win

Furthermore than this, when the final encounter happened, Hawkins not only was doll-less, but he was betrayed by Drake in an unexplained situation right now where Hawkins may or may not have been caught off-guard, but with Law also visibly more damaged despite ultimately winning in the end, and thus portraying a hypothetical full-health/arsenal Hawkins in Law's reach

With that said, Law overall still has better portrayal, so because of this i think Law might still end up edging this fight, but due to Hawkins being a good match-up for him, it'd not surprise me if he could win
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
Why would he need Orochi for that?!! He has King, Queen and Jack for it.

No!! That is absolutely not the reason. Besides Doffy dealt with the underworld. Kaido didn't kill Orochi till now because he didn't need to. But now...he does and he did.
King, Queen, and Jack are bunch of overpowered idiots with weird fetishes.

He needed scummy manipulator like Orochi before. Now that he gathered everything he needs he could easily kill him off.
 
Zoro's single flying slash earned a praise from Fujitora.
While Doffy laughed at pre G4 Luffy's AP.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Fujitora got bruised by a basic Gear 3. Zoro's flying slash can't even match that.

You have Law cutting up a mountain and a top VA claded in fullbody CoA (stronger CoA than Pica btw) in 1 swift move that wasn't even his strongest attack. Please don't compare Zoro's "slashes" to Law.
 
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