Spoiler One Piece Chapter 986 Spoilers Discussion

[Jo_Ndule]

Oda never hyped BigMom and Kaido for their haki though....their hype came from having monstrous physical strength ....even @Jo_Ndule never said they had stronger haki than Shanks/Rayleigh/Mihawk/Roger etc. ....

People think when they say Ray has better haki than Kaido and BM means much.
Katakuri has better CoA and CoO haki mastery than Teach, BM and Kaido, Fuji, combined.
He also has better CoO than any top tier so far including WB and Fuji.

I've been sayinh t for 3 years now, Kaido, BM and calamities won't have great haki mastery nor be hyped as haki masters.
BM doesn't even control her CoC like Katakuri does lol it only happens when she clashes or goes mad

Katakuri and Luffy have showed the best CoC control in a battle by just staring at each other and KO people easily and affecting the environment x they didn't need to bump fists or kicks.

They clowned me, yet they now wanna use "x has better CoO and CoA than Kaido" to downplay Kaido when each Yonko is Yonko for different reasons

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

He didn't push through Marco lmao. Post a panel of him overpowering Marco I dare you

how did he get through to jimbei and luffy chief.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

There is Bepo there too

That's the pet.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Kaido will obviously fodderize everyone next chapter but it won't redeem how bad he looks in this one, if anything he doesn't look like a man looking for a place to die.

this
100% this.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Fanbase will wank the shit of Kaido again after scabbards get clubbed

Wanking Kaido cuz he beat the scarbads ?

 

[T.D.A]

Imagine if Marco was involved in this attack on Kaido but instead Oda had him go sight seeing.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Kind of a weird comparison to make. Kaido wont be dead after that attack, unlike WB lmao

You don't say??

The comparison is obvious. A 90 percent dead WB endures attacks from individuals stronger than any individual that attacked Kaido and doesn't budge an inch. Even in death remains on his feet. Kaido gets blown out by two people connecting a hit on him.

 

[Haoshoku]

Kind of a weird comparison to make. Kaido wont be dead after that attack, unlike WB lmao

It’s just a meme post, not meant to be taken seriously.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

lol their wet dream is that everyone else will join in on the kaido worship, what about when he starts losing again?

dehyping is inevitable.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

It shows Luffy trusts Yamato and

Also Yamato will play a huge role alongside Kidd and Law

The rest like Marco Zoro killer Sanji are second tier characters in this war

Uh?

It's Luffy acknowledging cheerleaders .

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

It’s just a meme post, not meant to be taken seriously.

Also this lmao.

 

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Kaido will obviously fodderize everyone next chapter but it won't redeem how bad he looks in this one, if anything he doesn't look like a man looking for a place to die.

Memories of Oden literally giving anxiety attacks

 

[garciajulieen]

I dont care if Kaido is the strongest or weakest top tier but its obvious Oda has wanked Oden to such a degree that he's destroyed all the hype around Kaido when he was introduced first.

No other toptier has been downgraded like this. Not even Big Meme. I dont think its good story wise but its Odas choice obviously.

Well I think this is still tolerable since it happened 20 years ago. You know how far a man can grow in just a year or two in op world

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Kaido probably has the worst reaction speed of any character in the series. I think it's really his fighting style to take damage and then counter since he's confident with his indestructible body but that's very bad.

 

[Awaken Fruit]

Yes, but its in reference to her calling herself a man. She corrects him after.

What does it matter

 

[Paperchampion23]

You don't say??

The comparison is obvious. A 90 percent dead WB endures attacks from individuals stronger than any individual that attacked Kaido and doesn't budge an inch. Even in death remains on his feet. Kaido gets blown out by two people connecting a hit on him.

How so? How do YOU in particular know any of Blackbeard's subordinates are in particular, especially at the time without devil fruit powers, stronger than any scabbard? How do YOU know if any of the scabbards are even going to damage Kaido?

Again, you guys are jumping the gun on something you know nothing about lmao.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

so how strong do yall think chaden was now

 

[Seraphoenix]

how did he get through to jimbei and luffy chief.

He did that before all the WB commanders stood in front of him. Then he never got close to them. Bring a panel of Akainu overpowering Marco. Also you dodged the databook

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Kaido probably has the worst reaction speed of any character in the series.

I would say he and Big Mom have equally terrible reaction time. The only reason they are Yonko is because they are punching bags, not because they are strong and competent.

 

[Paperchampion23]

What does it matter

Idk, what is your point? He's calling her Yama-o for a totally different reason from why he says it to Law/Kid.